Cloned Beef — Soul or No Soul?
January 18th, 2008 by Rose Rosetree
“Only God can make a tree,” Joyce Kilmer famously wrote. Does God have any active part in making cloned animals? If that cow is 100% cloned, God has 0% active participation. The meat is 100% pure machine. So are the milk and cheese coming from that animal.
Does that matter to you? I hope so. The purpose of this post is to explain why it matters so much to me.
Since I began to investigate auras of cloned animals as part of the new ruling in American food safety, it has been an education for me in many ways.
Although I knew that many people didn’t read auras yet, I wasn’t prepared for the reactions I would receive in some media interviews and online, like the interview with Wireless Flash that began, “Cloned cows are ’steering’ one spiritual teacher in the wrong direction.”Even if you don’t read auras yet, you deserve some clarification straight-from-the-real-live-physical-shoulder. So here are questions framed from some conversations I’ve had recently, in media interviews and online:
Q. Why should it matter if food that you eat or drink has no aura?
A. When we eat food, we are eating physical nutrients but we are also taking in the consciousness of the food. If you study ancient wisdom traditions like Chinese Herbal Medicine or India’s Ayurveda, you can learn about different properties of consciousness food, how they stimulate different kinds of functioning within the body, for instance whether you are increasing the metal element or promoting vata.
Ancient wisdom traditions don’t discuss eating machines, instead of food. And I don’t think that’s only because such atrocities weren’t available 5,000 years ago. Even the great sages who predicted our era, Kali Yuga, a time when falsity would trump truth 99 times out of 100, didn’t have the tragic imagination to anticipate a time when human beings would voluntarily eat food with zero energy, no soul within, pure zilch.
Q. Can you be more practical about what it means to eat food with no soul?
A. Okay. Is your idea of a great love experience to have an affair with an inflatable doll or a vibrator? Which would you prefer for a friend, a real human being or a robot? And which do you think your body would prefer to eat, a pie or a soft, chewy brick?
Q. But cloned animals can be happy. Look at this photo of Scuppy, the cloned dog. If an animal can be happy, doesn’t it have a soul?
A. A mood is not all that inner life means. See our previous post about that here.
Beyond that, check out the photo of Scuppy above, cloned by a Korean scientist.
Being able to move doesn’t mean happiness. Haven’t you ever read kid’s books about animals who are humanized by the author? I loved “The Wind in the Willows” as much as the next child, but toads don’t really drive motor-cars.
Similarly, a dog can run and drool and have bright eyes, but that doesn’t mean anybody is home inside. If you don’t anthropomorphize, you’ll be able to tell the difference between cloned and real. For reading reality and not fantasy, nothing approaches reading auras or doing empathic merges.
Q. Then how can you tell the difference between seeming happy to you and really having something go on inside?
A. Read auras. It’s like x-ray ability into the inner person. In my latest book, Cut Cords of Attachment
I say that reading auras is a survival skill for the 21st century. Cloned animals are a case in point. If you can’t tell the difference between the surface and deeper energy reality, you might want to learn how to tell that difference. Read auras and you’ll receive quite an education.
Q. My initial impression has been that if something is animated, regardless of its origin, it has an element of spirit or soul, else - what else is IN there? How is it alive?
A. Something that is animated can run, like a car. You, being alive, may project aliveness into it. If you’re warm and nurturing, like our blog-buddy Colleen, you might name it “Baby.” But a car isn’t alive.
Machines can have devas, elemental spirits that help make them run. Spiritual life is always present. I’ve heard a sweet story about the deva who runs the broken down washing machine at Findhorn.
So a cow that has been cloned is a machine that behaves like a cow. It’s more like a robot, biologically built. And such machines have their uses, but not as something to eat.
Q. Do leather goods, having come from live animals, still have residues of auras in them?
A. Yes, of course the energetic residue is there. If you ever study psychometry, you can learn to refine your ability to make contact with the source of an object… that has been owned by someone with a soul.
Q. Why would one seek to come into form in a cloned body?
A. One doesn’t incarnate in a cloned body. That’s the point. A machine doesn’t incarnate. If machines, in animal (or human) are to be mixed in with the rest of us here, it would be like “The Stepford Wives” only without the happy ending.
Who would be able to tell fake from real? Aura readers. In Aura Reading Through All Your Senses, there are over 100 techniques. See the part about reading the effect of irradiated juice boxes and other food that is so “well preserved” that it is energetically dead. That’s close to cloned, but not as bad.
Q. Does that mean that cloned sheep don’t have souls? I mean, I believe that animals otherwise have animal souls. Would cloned people have souls?
A. Ask animal communicators and they will tell you that animals have individual souls, sometimes more evolved than those of humans who own them. Even a mosquito has a soul, I’ve learned. But cloned people? They wouldn’t have souls. They would be a kind of biological robot.
Q. What do you think the consequence is of eating cloned food?
A. We really don’t know, do we? I predict that the consequence is becoming more dead inside with every mouthful. I don’t mean poisoned-type dead, I mean half-alive, numb, incurious, and aurically diminished.
Protest the FDA ruling that makes cloned meat legal, and help the USDA to demand that, if it must be produced, it is clearly labeled. Here is a new link, from Feb. 7, 2008, that can take you to a good petition on this topic: http://act.truemajorityaction.org/t/50/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=1519
The existence of a soul is also contested by various philossophies or religions and many of what is discussed here can not be proven/pinned down (for example god, the soul, reincarnation), and this discussion seems to relish in drawing conclusions on the unproven or unprovable.
Yes, it’s this blog’s general belief that reincarnation, God, and the soul exist. Belief is personal, and no one is imposing his or her views on you.
Without using metaphysical arguments, I think there is plenty of scientific evidence that manufactured, man-made foods are harmful to the health and diet - look at the astounding health hazards associated with generations of people used to eating junk food, Burger King, other fast-food chains, eating massive portions of everything, and consider this “normal.” In other countries, the American diet is puzzling.
I think the technology of cloning is still too early for the government and food industries to mass-market it as a standard alternative to meat and protein. It should be tested under a long consideration by the government.
Do animals created by in vitro fertilization also have NO aura? Most cows nowadays have not been ‘produced’ in a natural way. Have you evaluated kids that have been the product of in vitro fertilization?
Karin, you really think like a scientist. This is great.
You also know me well. You’ve experienced healing sessions with me and studied my work. So you must know by now that I’m not a scientist, nor have I ever wished to be.
You’re raising really interesting questions from a scientific perspective. Well, you have the tools to do this research on your own. Go for it. Then post here, either as comment or guest post.
About comment 1, Karin, science has a way of proving. Perception has a different way of proving. The whole point of this blog, and community, is for people to use deeper perception in order to experience a deeper truth.
You can do an aura reading or an empathic merge on photos, or animals directly, and post your results. For many of us here –myself certainly– that is the most compelling “proof.”
The FDA allegedly ran scientific experiments on cloned beef and found no problem with it at all. But their work didn’t include the simple kind of spiritual perception that this blog offers. So how important, or trustworthy, is scientific proof without experience at a deeper level?
Maybe you will be a pioneer, Karin, putting together both approaches.
Re comment 1, “… this discussion seems to relish in drawing conclusions on the unproven or unprovable.”
If I were to post only about what is objectively “provable,” I would be posting only about such things as what I ate for breakfast, physical ailments I have (that others could see), the weather, what I bought when I went shopping, and my latest workout schedule. I do “relish” the part of my life/reality that science can’t prove. It is what makes my life more alive, magical, even juicy.
I don’t share my thoughts about Deeper Perception with most people because they simply don’t care. They might care about me, but if I talk about it, they give me “the look,” which is outwardly polite and says “that’s different,” but inwardly they are very uncomfortable and thinking “you’re insane.” It is wonderful to have a forum in which I can read and even respond to other people who don’t give me the bitter look of skepticism.
I think skepticism has its place, of course, as with the FDA’s ruling on cloned meat. It’s just that it has been difficult for me to voice my experiences that others dismiss because I can’t “prove” them. In short, I am very grateful for this blog and Rose’s work.
See more cloned animals at the following link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,8542,627251,00.html and decide for yourself if they have an aura or not.
decide for yourself if they have an aura or not.
I am curious what YOUR opinion is, Karin, and why.
This is interesting:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041103031210.htm
It’s an article titled: “Study Shows Differences in Natural Immunity in Cloned Pigs.” I think it makes sense because, (if you believe/have read aurically that cloned animals don’t have souls,) wouldn’t their immune systems logically suffer? What is the role of the soul in healing? I think it is huge.
Alternatively, if you don’t believe in souls, it might be another turnoff to cloned meat to know that cloned animals with their weaker immune systems are going to be pumped full of even more antibiotics or are going to have even more diseases in them.
Re: Dana’s comment, “if I talk about it, they give me “the look,” which is outwardly polite and says “that’s different,” but inwardly they are very uncomfortable and thinking “you’re insane.” …
Thanks for the giggle, Dana. That resonates perfectly for me!