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		<title>By: Rose Rosetree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose Rosetree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 02:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PHILLIP, funny and true and pathetic, all at the same time.

Welcome to the blog, and thanks so much for your comment here and for ones to come.

And BONNIE, thanks for your comment as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PHILLIP, funny and true and pathetic, all at the same time.</p>
<p>Welcome to the blog, and thanks so much for your comment here and for ones to come.</p>
<p>And BONNIE, thanks for your comment as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip McGaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip McGaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming from the South, I was surprised when I moved to Northern California to a small town of less than 4 thousand people. This town&#039;s newspaper had a list of self help groups as long or maybe longer than any listing you might find in a city the size of Boston.
In my opinion people like to deny a part of themselves they aren&#039;t ready to face. Sometimes online I will see a profile named &quot;niceperson&quot;, and when I actually meet them, I&#039;d swear I actually met a yard dog. At the beginning, they usually try to control me or convince me to be as &quot;happy&quot; as they think they are, but at the end of the conversation, when I point out certain inconsistentcies, all they can manage to do is to smile though clenched teeth, and think there is something wrong with me. It&#039;s kind of a one up and one down mentality...sick people need someone else to be the scapegoat, and some people frankly just love misery (but I find this healthier than pretending to be happy when you&#039;re completely miserable.)Some people operate under the principle of &quot;presentation is everything.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from the South, I was surprised when I moved to Northern California to a small town of less than 4 thousand people. This town&#8217;s newspaper had a list of self help groups as long or maybe longer than any listing you might find in a city the size of Boston.<br />
In my opinion people like to deny a part of themselves they aren&#8217;t ready to face. Sometimes online I will see a profile named &#8220;niceperson&#8221;, and when I actually meet them, I&#8217;d swear I actually met a yard dog. At the beginning, they usually try to control me or convince me to be as &#8220;happy&#8221; as they think they are, but at the end of the conversation, when I point out certain inconsistentcies, all they can manage to do is to smile though clenched teeth, and think there is something wrong with me. It&#8217;s kind of a one up and one down mentality&#8230;sick people need someone else to be the scapegoat, and some people frankly just love misery (but I find this healthier than pretending to be happy when you&#8217;re completely miserable.)Some people operate under the principle of &#8220;presentation is everything.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Rose for addressing this subject.  

I get that there are a lot of drama queens out there that enjoy beating their breasts and pointing out how victimized they are when a grownup would just put on their big girl panties and deal.

Thanks to Civic, too, for bring up the whole &quot;victim/suffering&quot; subject.  It is a big can of worms.

There is a powerful scene in the book &quot;Dune&quot; in which the young hero has to keep his hand in a box and endure the sensation of burning, to prove that he is a &quot;real&quot; human who has mastery over himself, and not just an animal.  Is suffering necessary for our soul&#039;s growth?  Or do we suffer because that is part of being human?

As for being a victim; I think we all agree harming kids is outside the boundaries even if they were part of the Mongol horde in their last life.  Child abuse may be able to be explained, but not excused, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Rose for addressing this subject.  </p>
<p>I get that there are a lot of drama queens out there that enjoy beating their breasts and pointing out how victimized they are when a grownup would just put on their big girl panties and deal.</p>
<p>Thanks to Civic, too, for bring up the whole &#8220;victim/suffering&#8221; subject.  It is a big can of worms.</p>
<p>There is a powerful scene in the book &#8220;Dune&#8221; in which the young hero has to keep his hand in a box and endure the sensation of burning, to prove that he is a &#8220;real&#8221; human who has mastery over himself, and not just an animal.  Is suffering necessary for our soul&#8217;s growth?  Or do we suffer because that is part of being human?</p>
<p>As for being a victim; I think we all agree harming kids is outside the boundaries even if they were part of the Mongol horde in their last life.  Child abuse may be able to be explained, but not excused, IMHO.</p>
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