Deeper Perception Made Practical

Leaving a cult? How I help with deprogramming.



Could I call myself a deprogrammer? Gulp, yes. I suppose I could.

Except deprogrammers have a reputation for being quite fierce. Sometimes, I’ve heard, they are hired to kidnap cult members, hired by anxious parents to slap that kid into shape over the weekend.

My approach is way different. In case you have a friend who wonders, “Is that cherished group of mine a cult?” you might forward a link to this post. Only please, please do not send that link just because YOU are concerned about your friend being in a cult.

However, YOU might be invited to help a friend who is dealing with cult mind control. Joe might be a participant in a cult. Gladys might have a significant other who may be involved in a cult.

How can you avoid enabling? How can you bring clarity?

The following ideas may help.

The Rose Rosetree Version of Deprogramming

1. Flexibility

There is no set protocol I use to help a person exit a cult. It’s a matter of helping one individual at a time.

2. The client sets the agenda, not me.

Self-authority is a cherished part of my ethics as a healer, teacher, and writer. One definition of cults is that they do not promote self-authority. Just the opposite.

Since I WAS in a cult from 1969 until 1986, it took me a long, long time to develop spiritual self-authority. That’s one reason this is such a cherished value, high on the top of my list of ethical requirements in life.

  • Sometimes a client wants help with releasing cult affiliation. It’s clear right from the first session.
  • Sometimes my client’s relationship develops over time. The client begins with Empath Empowerment, or seeks to cut a cord of attachment to a relationship that seems to threaten cult involvement. It could be any topic related to emotional or spiritual healing.

That’s fine. In every session, my client brings an intention. I just do a bit of coaching, as needed, to make sure that intention is productive.

And if a client starts to question cult involvement, I have many ways to help while causing as little drama as possible.

3. Clients can research cult involvement in many ways.

Energetic literacy gives anyone the ability to read auras at will. And when you read auras, or do Skilled Empath Merges, or any technique for Stage 3 energetic literacy, hello! You find out who a person really is.

Here are some of the ways I have helped clients to (directly or indirectly) learn about cult involvement:

  • Ask me to read the aura of the cult leader.
  • Ask me to read the client’s aura as it is, then research the effect of participation in that particular group. Perhaps research the effect of leaving that group or ceasing that group’s main spiritual practice.
  • Ask me to cut the cord of attachment between my client and an influential person with the group.
  • Do Thrill Your Soul aura reading research on a number of life choices, including ones that involve cult members, practices, or places to live.
  • Do Thrill Your Soul aura reading research for naming — considering new first or last names. Or simply evaluating the current name and its implications for a bunch of chakra databanks.
  • Energy Release Regression Therapy can be really helpful for removing causes of needing a cult.

4. Clients can heal at their own pace.

Moving out of a cult is a delicate thing, comparable to getting divorced from a long-term, complicated marriage with many children and step-children, maybe an adorable pet goat plus a family business of making bathtub gin.

Exiting, the person stands to lose home, spiritual family, only social connections. The person loses spiritual path, core beliefs, even the language of everyday thinking.

Sometimes the person even loses a wardrobe! Gladys was in a cult that required her to wear white clothes. (Hello! Cult alert! Any group that requires you to wear a special kind of clothing 24/7 may well qualify as a cult.) Gladys dyed all her outfits into pretty pastels. Now there was a triumph!

5. What do I always like to include for deprogramming?

Exiting a cult, or deprogramming, is very different from merely leaving. Working with a client long-term, I do like to make sure that the client understands that he or she WAS in a cult. Because such groups have many things in common, especially never being called “a cult.”

When a client like Joe simply leaves a group, he is likely to join another cult that is just as bad.  Why is it necessary to exit if he really wants to become free for the rest of his life? Otherwise, merely leaving:

  • He hasn’t really moved out the full appreciation of what a cult is.
  • He may not have healed the causes that made him vulnerable.
  • Energetic patterns at the level of aura and subconscious mind haven’t been budged. Simply leaving a group — or going to a regular deprogrammer — won’t move out a single cord of attachment or frozen block of energy (most efficiently moved out, to my knowledge, with Energy Release Regression Therapy).
  • He hasn’t put in place anything comparable that is new and positive.

Can life after a cult become better than ever before? Definitely.

That may be the single most important thing to know about truly exiting a cult. You’re not just shaking off something limiting. It’s a major step toward spiritual Enlightenment.

You are set free. Your life comes back to you, day by day and year by year.

And you will have graduated from an extremely important course here at Earth School. No cult will ever appeal to you again.

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  1. 1
    Grace S says:

    I feel like I left the cult of Pot Head last year. Many similarities… from personal identity, social connections, spiritual family, clothing (for a lot of people, but not me, same thing with Leader, ie, Bob Marley), core beliefs, language of everyday thinking, affiliation, money pit, isolation, feeling superior, brainwashed.

    I finally wanted something different in my life, and had to start with the obvious. And it HAS felt like deprogramming.

    And I did have to replace it with something “new and positive,” and quite a lot of courage.

    I had to let go of 20 years of my adult identity, counter culture idealism, and many of my close friends. And slowly, I’ve been able to acknowledge some of the detrimental effects (the new counter culture).

    I also have to give credit where credit is due – Rose has been an invaluable help (thanks as always!)

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    GRACE, you’re welcome. More than that, I want to share my perspective that you are entirely correct about the similarity between cults and substance-addiction-subculture.

    Substances have their own “stinking thinking” that goes with them, complete with subculture, heroes, etc.

    It takes huge courage to exit the cult of Marijuana-Weed-Pot-Coolier-Than-Thou.

    That kind of hugely courageous person is, definitely, YOU.

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    Primrose says:

    I left my family and had no contact with them for 5 years, now my contact with them is much easier.

    I left recovery for 10 years, now I go to meetings as and when and like that very much.

    My family was pretty cult-like and plenty of people think recovery is a cult.

    I like to do my own thing whatever group I’m in. I think that’s come from leaving my family and then leaving recovery. That was very hard and I struggled a lot going through those experiences.

    Now it’s not so difficult to engage with groups of people who think a certain way when I don’t. Well, it’s like being here. I can take what I like and leave the rest. I guess I know whether I’m in a cult-like environment because other people can’t tolerate me being like that.

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    Jody says:

    Primrose, for what it is worth, I think your points of view and comments here at Rose’s blog are awesome.

    Your posts somehow give me a stronger sense of what it means to stick to my own opinions if and until I can really find out something to add or subtract otherwise. Doing that — instead of being tugged and pulled around by all, and everyone’s ideas and opinions whether coercive or genuinely helpful.

    And learning to be a skilled empath I am really enjoying feeling less like a wispy feather that keeps getting whooshed by updrafts, and more like a human person who can be just a bit stubborn if she wants to. 🙂

  5. 5

    JODY, I agree about appreciating PRIMROSE’S comments so much. Also yours.

    How often does a writer-type person encounter language as gorgeous as “a wispy feather that keeps getting whooshed by updrafts”?

    Everybody’s comments thrill me, actually. Sometimes when exploring the Blogosphere I will encounter comments that don’t quite meet the standard set by all you Blog-Buddies. I feel honored to have an online community of such independent thinkers and articulate people.

    Often I’ll be enabling a comment here and think, “How generous to share this.” and “How honest.”

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    Grace S says:

    Family as a cult – true that. I’m glad other perspectives are being brought up too.

    “Cult” can be, and is, broadly applicable, and I think that’s fair and an important thing to bring up.

    This really is all about self-authority when it comes down to it, and the process of earning it.

  7. 7
    Debbie Ashby says:

    Can you help us to expose a cult in Georgia worse than Waco TX or Jim Jones praying on homeless women and children and men also.

    — Debbie

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    Primrose says:

    Jody, I didn’t see your post here until now, thank you so much! I really appreciate being in a group where differences can be tolerated and self-authority is seen as being important.

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    Jody says:

    🙂 you’re welcome Primrose! I feel on a very even keel here at Rose’s blog.

    Even though some posts and comments sometimes challenge my status quo, it’s in the good mind-opening healthy way, not a bad personal-attacky do-it-my-way-or-else way.

    Hope you had a great time meeting Rose in person 🙂

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    Wendy Wywrot says:

    i had an idea pop into my head, not sure if it is appropriate or not…would you be interested in a Cult Leader List ? (where Rose you read their auras & people nominate possible cult leaders ?) or is that silly ?
    thanks for all of the interesting comments !

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    Nothing inappropriate about asking regarding a topic about deeper perception made practical.

    I must decline this interesting invitation though, WENDY.

    Sitting in judgment of my fellow teachers, healers, and writers is not what makes me happy.

    The Enlightenment Life List is part of a bigger topic, helping to make clear what is — and isn’t — Enlightenment. That’s not about being a consumer guide.

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    The idea isn’t the least bit silly, researching if someone is in a cult. Or if a spiritual practice that supposedly is a Godsend is really god-awful for the person who might be doing it.

    During personal, private sessions — one on one — I can do aura reading research to DEFINITELY clarify topics like this. Many clients have found this hugely beneficial.

    I can be completely candid because it is not a public blog.

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