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Ask A Groovy Psychiatrist, a contest for ex-pot smokers and other wisdom seekers


Psychiatrist “Arlene” has agreed, and I am… psyched. This new contest is a chance for our Deeper Perception community to explore so many topics, including:

  • The differences between psychological healing and spiritual healing — from someone who values both.
  • Given Arlene’s experience so far as a psychiatry resident, what she has learned about helping patients in recovery from addiction to marijuana.
  • Any general questions you might have for a contemporary and very cool psychiatrist — someone from today’s generation of practitioners.

Why summon a psychiatrist to this blog?

No, it’s not because I fear that all empaths and aura readers are delusional. 😉

If you read yesterday’s post, you know our initial context for summoning Arlene’s perspective here at Deeper Perception Made Practical. We have been pursuing a thread about how energetic literacy reveals the hidden dangers of pot-marijuana-weed-grass-MJ-dope.

Of special importance is how Rosetree Energy Spirituality can help if you want to stop smoking pot.

I thought we needed to enrich our group conversation by bringing in a certified mental health professional. Just as, when giving support to my clients with sessions of Energy Spirituality Energy HEALING, depending on how much they’re struggling, I don’t hesitate to refer them to mental health professionals and addiction counselors.

Why do I call Arlene a “Groovy” psychiatrist?

Back in the psychedelic ’60s (a.k. a. “If you can remember it, you weren’t there”), yes, I smoked a bit of pot myself. Which my friends and I thought  was just the grooviest thing ever.

For me, smoking grass was a spiritual quest. I didn’t just like On the Road by Jack Kerouac. I loved The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley.

Not all pot smokers are major spiritual seekers, but I’d be surprised to find anyone who smoked weed more than once and didn’t consider it a hip/amazing/boundary-smashing/more-real-than-surreal/groovy experience.

So wouldn’t bringing in a groovy psychiatrist be an appropriate way to help people say farewell to grass? If “groovy” means really smart, sophisticated, and uncommonly perceptive, that would be Dr. Arlene.

In days to come, as you’all add your comments to yesterday’s post, we’ll find out your favorite aspects of what she wrote. Personally, I just was thrilled to read this hyper-perceptive observation:

The part that was confusing to me was if he himself felt alienated from himself on some level because he was no longer smoking MJ or if he was commenting that he felt socially alienated but personal self-acceptance was not an issue.

Go knock our socks of, Groovy Psychiatrist!

How this latest contest will work

  1. Ask one main question at a time, using the comment boxes below. Sub-questions and explanations can be included, as I will demonstrate in the first comment.
  2. Ask anything about getting off marijuana, or any other general questions for The Groovy Psychiatrist. (Please refrain from asking for personal advice. Save that for your private session with the healing practitioner of your choice.)
  3. As always, at this blog, you can comment anonymously. And you don’t need to do anything fancy technically. Simply write something in your first line of the comment like, “Rose, call me Ishmael.” [Substitute any other name of your choice, or ask me to make one up for you.]
  4. Be aware that your asking a comment will not guarantee that your question will be answered.
  5. The deadline for submitting questions is February 1, 2011.

After that deadline, I will record an interview with Arlene, The Groovy Psychiatrist. Questions will be selected and prioritized by me, grouping topic areas and emphasizing questions that seem to me to be especially relevant to… this particular blog.

The interview will last up to one hour, not… however long it takes. Afterwards it will be posted as an audiofile right here at the blog, so all of you can enjoy.

Both Arlene, The Groovy Psychiatrist, and I are looking forward to your questions.

How does that make you feel? 😉

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  1. 1

    Hey, Arlene the Groovy Psychiatrist, I’m not shy about asking the first question here.

    What are the implications for psychological healing of how current energy healing modalities treat STUFF?

    As you long-time Blog-Buddies know, the level of auras where STUFF affects people… corresponds to the subconscious mind.

    How could Energy Spirituality techniques complement psychiatric interventions? And vice verssa.

  2. 2
    Carol says:

    Wow! Thank you, Arlene, for being willing to do this for us in the midst of your very busy life and studies!

    Having been married to a pothead, I have been wanting to ask some questions for a long time. One of the most persistent questions I have is this:

    How does a pothead who is trying to quit change all the “State dependent” memories they have stored up over the years of smoking? Is that possible or do they just have to go relearn everything in their new, non-drugged “State” of mind.

    My experience is with the academic people I socialized with – in universities and working scientists – who smoked all the time – morning to noon. Most of them mentioned at some time that they needed to be high in order to more fully access a lot of information they needed to perform their jobs. This is known as State Dependent Memories/Learning, I believe. Perhaps you could elaborate on this a little.

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    Carol says:

    Your comments about the socialization aspect of MJ is so true.

    While married to the MJ smoker, all our mutual friends were smokers and the only friends who were not were my own friends from before I was married or from other pursuits I personally made after the marriage.

    When I divorced, ALL of the pot smoking “friends” dropped me like a hot potato.

    It really hurt at the time, but now I am really grateful and relieved I don’t have to deal with them any longer.

  4. 4
    primrose says:

    I don’t have a question, but thanks for sharing your knowledge and being available for questions. Lovely of you.

  5. 5
    Amanda says:

    Hi Arlene 🙂

    I would like to ask what ‘detox’ effects are reported when someone with a heavy long-term smoking habit stops. Are they physical, spiritual or mental, or a mixture of these?

    And in the case of “dope paranoia,” are the people generally aware that the paranoia is a result of the dope smoking, or do they blame it on something else?



  6. 6
    Ashley says:

    Hi, Arlene.

    Thank you for taking the time to do this. I posted this question on another post, but I would also like to hear a psychiatrist’s perspective using the mind/body/spirit model:

    The spiritual expansion from smoking pot is really incredible. How can one have a sober life and yet still have that amazing spiritual expansion?

  7. 7

    Regarding Emotional Freedom Technique (E.F.T.), I have heard from two reliable sources that this method was originally developed by a psychiatrist in California.

    One of my clients, Joe, had sessions with this psychiatrist long before Gary Craig popularized this method and, I guess, took credit for developing it.

    Not that I am an expert about this history. And there might be big differences between these practitioners. Also, if the psychiatrist did originate this method, perhaps Gary Craig credits him somewhere…. Maybe some of you Blog-Buddies know more about this. In which case, do tell.

    Anyway, ARLENE, I’m curious about YOUR experiences with E.F.T. and your opinion of it, as widely practiced today.

  8. 8

    ARLENE, I’m going to start adding my questions, too. It is such a great learning opportunity, having you willing to entertain these questions!

    You are familiar with the term “energetic sub-routine,” which is about ways that a person can unintentionally use one part of an aura (a chakra databank, like “Third eye chakra databank: Seeking psychic guidance”) to do the work of another part of an aura (like “Heart chakra databank: Emotional self-awareness”).

    In psychiatry, is there an equivalent concept? If so, how is such a problem treated?

    In psychological healing, in general, how are such problems acknowledged and treated?

  9. 9

    When I think of the healer’s role in psychiatry, I think of someone who is very vigiliant to not allow personal feelings, thoughts, or reactions show to a client.

    I think of the psychiatrist who has the patient lie on a couch — the kind of practitioner my mother went to actually, back in the 1950’s, some four days a week.

    Do contemporary psychiatrists have a similar obligation to blank out their personas when dealing with patients?

  10. 10

    ARLENE, some of my most appreciative clients had experiences of being raped or stalked, or there was physical or sexual abuse.

    This can define a person’s life for all the years that follow, as I’m sure you have found with patients.

    The approach of Energy Spirituality is to remove the cord of attachment to the abuser, and that can take just one session to change things for good.

    What is the approach of psychological healing to this type of problem?

  11. 11
    Anonymous says:

    Arlene, as the parent of an 18-year-old young man who smokes pot, which I find upsetting to say the least, what would be techniques that parents would find helpful to do for themselves?

  12. 12
    Carol says:

    Rose, Several years ago I got Certified as an EFT Practitioner so I am going to answer your questions about EFT here. Not to usurp anyone else who has knowledge or experience with it also adding to this.

    Gary Craig was an Engineer who (I can’t remember the why) learned Thought Field Therapy (TFT) from a psychologist, Roger Callahan. Roger had stumbled onto the therapy in working with a woman with a particularly stubborn phobia by (and, again, I can’t remember the exact way it came about) tapping on one of the accupuncture points at the inside edge of the eyebrow which is on the Bladder meridian.

    It instantly cured her phobia. He then went on to research and devise the TFT system, which was a rigid system of algorythms and formulas of tapping sequences that had to be followed precisely for various conditions and phobias.

    Gary Craig, being an engineer and very creative, after becoming certified by Roger Callahan in his system, began to experiment and came up with the EFT system which, basically, tapped on all of the main meridians in only one basic sequence for virtually every condition and phobia, and he got the same amazing results.

    This greatly simpified the process and he has always credited Roger Callahan for being the pioneer in the original idea and application of tapping on Acupunture meridians for phobias and other conditions it is used for.

    But Gary Craig’s system is so easy and universally applicable and his desire was only to put this wonderful tool of healing in as many hands as possible, as quickly as possible. He has never made money on it. He has always been motivated only out of service and love and that always comes through in his teachings.

    As I write this I am thinking it would be fun to do an aura reading of Gary.

    EFT has morphed and grown way beyond Gary’s or Roger’s wildest dreams. Currently there are many, many different forms that have come out of everyone’s willingness (with Gary’s enthusiastic encouragement) to experiment with it and be open to “trying it on everything”. Gary retired from being the hub and heart of EFT a few years ago, but he is loved and thought of with deep gratitude for the gift he gave so freely and lovingly to the world by all of us who learned from him.

    In keeping with the theme of this post, I have used EFT on myself and on others and gotten seemingly miraculous results with it. I credit EFT for saving my life when I went through my divorce. It serves a different purpose from the Spiritual Healing that you teach and do, Rose. It helps remove the psychological blocks to healing on all levels.

    EFT is the poor man’s psychological help in that it is easy to learn, widely available for free to learn on the Internet, and you really can’t harm yourself with it. It does help to have someone else do it on you when you are stuck, but you can go a long ways on your own. I couldn’t have afforded counseling when I was going through the divorce and was depressed and suicidal and that is why I credit EFT with saving my life.

    It would be very interesting to research what, exactly, EFT does to someone’s aura.

  13. 13

    CAROL, it is GREAT to have this history cleared up. What an inspiration!

    Thank you once again.

  14. 14
    Amanda says:

    Hi Carol 🙂

    I am not certified but do have some of the EFT DVDs, and one of the things I liked was how open Gary was about evolving the technique. There was one session recorded where another man came onstage to demonstrate some new points to tap on which he’d found incorporated a lot of meridian meeting points. Gary was so open to input on the project, it was great to watch.

    EFT helped me also after my divorce when I was anxious. I’m very fond of it.



  15. 15
    Truthseeker says:

    Gary Craig was also Dr. Callahan’s first-ever student to learn his top level “Voice Technology” when it cost $100,000. Yep.

  16. 16

    ARLENE, what would you consider the equivalent of Enlightenment for those engaged in psychological healing?

  17. 17

    With all the discussion at this thread about E.F.T., let’s not omit the obvious question.

    E.F.T. means Energy Psychology. In fact, David Feinstein, Ph.D., has been a highly influential advocate of E.F.T., has written books about it and lobbied for it.

    Feinstein is the one to name it “Energy Psychology,” much as his wife, the great Donna Eden, developed a system of “Energy Medicine.” And her name, “Energy Medicine” has also become the wrap-around name to include all systems that access the aura through the physical body in order to bring about holistic healing.

    Anyway, back at my “simple” question, how do psychiatrists view Energy Psychology? Do they respect it?

    What about groups like the American Psychological Association? Do you have any idea?

  18. 18

    Also, how do psychiatrists view Energy Medicine?

    Again, do you know how groups like the American Psychological Association and the American Medical Association view it?

  19. 19

    And here’s a question from close to home. Okay, definitely from home.

    Right now Energy Spirituality is a true unknown, far as I know, to groups like the American Psychological Association and the American Medical Association.

    No research studies have been done so far, to my knowledge, on cutting cords of attachment.

    What on earth will it take to interest the psychiatric and counseling communities in Energy Spirituality? In publishing Cut Cords of Attachment, the back cover contained jacket reviews from two clinical psychologists, Enlightened Bill Bauman and amazing David Feinstein.

    Unfortunately, that hasn’t made much of a difference for credibility with the community of psychological healers. Do you have any ideas?

  20. 20
    Peter says:

    Hi Rose, what a coincidence: today I read an article by David Feinstein about “The Case for Energy Psychology,” and in this article he states the following:

    “Despite the field’s attempts to self-correct, including forming a professional organization (Association for Comprehensive Energy Psychology) to advance research, practice standards, and humanitarian projects, EP remained an outcast within the world of psychotherapy.

    “As recently as last December, the American Psychological Association (APA) denied, for the third time, the Association for Comprehensive Energy Psychology’s application to become a CE sponsor, in effect affirming a decade-old policy banning APA sponsors from granting CEs to psychologists for studying EP.”

    Now, I don’t know what a “CE sponsor” is, but the APA surely likes to deny the application for it to certain progressive organizations.

  21. 21
    Peter says:

    BTW, you can find the article (Energy Psychology: Snake Oil or Designer Tool for Neural Change) at:

  22. 22
    Jane says:

    Hi Arlene,

    Thanks for answering questions! This may tie in or dovetail with some of the other questions asked.

    Do you think more people are turning to spiritual healers in this day and age than ever before, in conjunction with the help they are getting from their psychiatrist?

    Are a lot of patients you meet open to trying nontraditional methods of healing?

    Is it likely this demand from consumers will put pressure on doctors to recognize spiritual healing as legitimate, and to entertain it as one of many options in healing that works for many people?

  23. 23
    Jane says:

    Where do you see the future of psychiatry going? What role will deeper perception and consciousness play? Do you have your own vision of what you would like to see happen?

  24. 24

    Let’s talk about “repetition compulsion.” Again. And again. And again.

    Seriously, Arlene, there’s a certain understanding about this term in your profession.

    Because you know a lot about Energy Spirituality, you also are aware of the role of STUFF in keeping people locked into old patterns. One cord of attachment, for instance, could keep Joe stuck to such a degree that he really can’t free himself from doing some old behaviors or thinking in certain ways.

    How do you distinguish what is caused by STUFF, better healed by spiritual healing, versus the role of psychological healing to move a patient out of a repetition compulsion.

  25. 25

    ARLENE, we have had some discussion here recently about drama, releasing, having a lot of fatigue after a healing session, etc.

    In psychological healing, is there any kind of standard and generalizable response when a patient experiences a lot of releasing between sessions of healing?

    With spiritual healing, it is usually effective just to slow down the pace of sessions and allow the client to integrate.

    For instance, here:

    See Comments 182 and 186.

  26. 26

    ARLENE, one of my standing appointments is with Gladys. She also sees a psychiatrist four days a week.

    Something interesting was discussed in our recent session. Gladys had a very ingrained habit, after years of all her therapy, where she stopped many times in the course of a day and thought about an incident that just happened. Gladys then tried to analyze what in the past was related and might be a pattern.

    But is this really a productive thing to do outside of therapy? With my perspective from Energy Spirituality, I would say, “No.” While Gladys had assumed this was helping her to progress.

    I suggested that Gladys ask her psychiatrist’s opinion, of course. But I’m also curious about your perspective. Does it help, outside of a therapeutic situation, to replay old situations and try to solve them like a puzzle?

  27. 27

    Related to Comments 5 and 6, and also a comment elsewhere on this blog: When current medical tests can’t reliably tell even if a person is stoned, in present time, how can scientists tout the virtues of medical marijuana?

    It seems so nutty to me, because if scientific ability to even DETECT being stoned on weed is so primitive, how can the consensus among doctors be that such a substance is safe?

  28. 28

    About narcissists, Arlene. There is a lot of talk, on the Internet and off it, about narcissists.

    Do you put all of them in one category? Because I get to do a fair amount of aura reading of narcissists. Typically, I will have cut a cord of attachment for Joe. He wants me to read Gladys, his ex or his mother or his father or his ex-boss, etc.

    (Funny how many people can appropriately or not be called “Gladys” around here. But that’s not my mental health problem, honest.)

    To me, no two narcissists are alike. The dynamics at chakra databanks are highly individual. Even for behavior that might seem similar the particular narcissist might, for example:

    * Gladys might have huge and detailed emotional self-awareness
    * Or Gladys might have an energetic sub-routine where all emotional concerns are calibrated in social status, especially the wearing of designer labels
    * Alternatively, Gladys’ emotional self-awareness could variations on the themes of sexual response to her charms (another case of outsourcing or what, in Magnetize Money with Energetic Literacy, I call “energetic sub-routines”)

    So, to me, this label of “narcissist” is like using the color name “green.” Where, in the popular imagination, “green” could cover any shade from emerald to olive to deep forest, etc. The definition is so vague, a person might as well say, “Half the people you may ever meet with a personality disorder of any kind.”

    As a mental health professional, are you pleased with the current tendency to slap on a label like “narcissist” as if that neatly explained or predicted a person’s behavior?

    Any other comments on what the term “narcissist” means to you?

  29. 29
    Primrose says:

    I think saying someone is a Narcissist differs from saying someone is narcissistic. It’s like the difference you pointed out in a recent post about The Anorectic Ideal and The Anorexia Ideal. One means a disorder, the other doesn’t.

    Personally, I’m happy that thanks to the Internet there is more awareness of personality disorders. It might mean narcissism becomes a bit of a “topic” for a while, but the more discussion out there about that kind of thing, the better as far as I’m concerned. Better it’s a buzz word than it’s something people have no awareness of at all.

    It makes me think of the first time I came out of denial about the alcoholism in my family. Suddenly I thought everyone in the world was from an alcoholic background.

    That was a stage for me, and I see others have a similar stage of seeing alcoholism/anorexia etc. everywhere. It settles down in time and you get a more realistic view of the world. I think that might be happening with narcissism at the moment.

  30. 30

    ARLENE, how would you as a psychiatrist define “Formative years”?

    What is the current thinking in your field about the permanence of experiences in early childhood?

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