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What does it mean to be spiritual, really?

Exploring how each person's sacred spiritual journey is unique.

Exploring how each person’s sacred spiritual journey is unique.

Enabling comments at our online community this morning, this blog host was so impressed with your wise words, Blog-Buddies. Notably ADAM’s magnificent Comment #30 about Enlightenment.

Thanks, everyone, for taking the time to join our conversation. Seems to me, we are creating quite the Enlightenment wiki around spiritual growth that, unlike the link just provided, is not centered around Christianity.

What does spiritual growth mean for someone on a path to Householder Enlightenment?

Over at Skilled Empath Merge with Elizabeth Holmes, a Billionaire at 30, Blog-Buddy MEG really grabbed my attention when she wrote, in Comment 3: “This woman is financially rich, but spiritually broke.”

What gave rise to this conclusion? Maybe this is a teachable moment for all of us to revisit some of our assumptions and beliefs.

  • What does it mean to you for a person to be considered “spiritual”?
  • Does spiritual growth have to include belonging to an organized religion?
  • What does it mean to evolve spiritually?

Here’s some context, as we explore what spirituality might really mean

I had posted a Skilled Empath Merge with a huge success story of an entrepreneur.

Evaluating what it means to grow spiritually or to “be spiritual”– well, for many reasons, a person might be curious. And not just for gossip, nor to be judgmental. You might explore whether a person is spiritual by your standards because:

  • You are considering study with that person to move forward on your path to Enlightenment.
  • You seek aura healing, whether through Energy Spirituality, Energy Medicine, or Energy Psychology.
  • You’re looking for a church home.
  • You’re seeking heroes and heroines? (I believe everyone needs some, even us post-postmodern ironists. Don’t you?)
  • You’re developing your working knowledge of good and bad, because ethics in everyday life really do matter.

So I applaud MEG for drawing attention to this very human question of “What does it mean to be a spiritual person?”

As a starting-off point for our discussion here at the blog, here is how I go about making that kind of assessment. To keep things real, let’s use Elizabeth Holmes as an example. She is, after all, a real-live person who was profiled yesterday at the blog.

What does the person say and do in objective reality?

Objective reality is really important, not something to over-interpret or discard as “An illusion.”

Elizabeth Holmes has developed technology to make lab testing more financially affordable. Maybe she has become one of the “big people” financially. However, she has earned that money in ways that help us, the “little people.”

The self-made billionaire has earned her money for doing something. Not just making money by gaming the financial system. Not through celebrity, the “Being famous for being famous” model that sometimes pays off. Nor has  Elizabeth Holmes grown rich through selling products produced by sweatshop labor, like the heirs of Wal-Mart founder Sam Walton. They are among the richest people in the entire world.

Now I’m not suggesting that how people make money is the only criterion for evaluating what it means to lead a spiritual life. Still, I think any honorable work that helps people goes to the head of my list for a good start towards “being spiritual.”

That group includes the guys who stop by my house twice a week to pick up the trash. When I assess whether someone is “a spiritual person,” they’re off to a good start, according to my criteria.

Doing honorable work that helps people would most definitely include the work of Elizabeth Holmes, at least based on what I know about her business.

Surface perception matters. But it doesn’t have to be all we use for making sense of life. On to making deeper perception practical!

Next, what does the person’s aura say?

Reading chakra databanks, it is possible to sort wheat from chaff from Twinkies. Using Stage One Energetic Literacy is misleading, though. How about developing Stage Three Energetic Literacy?

Ha, I know a website that can help you learn that survival skill for the third millennium. 🙂

Being able to read auras whenever you like, in person or from regular photographs. And research down to the level of chakra databanks. Here’s where it gets interesting, right?

What would be a deal breaker for spiritual goodness?

MEG, I gather, considered this to qualify Elizabeth Holmes as “spiritually broke”:

Third Eye Chakra Databank for Connection to Spiritual Source

3 inches. Does God exist?

Call it self-confidence. Or lack of proof. But Elizabeth Holmes isn’t convinced.

She doesn’t need “a God” outside herself.

Not a hater of the Divine, nor an angry atheist, nor a Mammon worshipper, nor a self-worshipper — this particular person, Elizabeth Holmes, lives just fine without having to think about God.

At that blog post, I elaborated further:

This benign neglect is pretty common, actually, among the people who have achieved tremendous success or fame early on. They believe they did it themselves. And just in this lifetime.

They tend to believe that “Anyone can be successful if they really try.” Sure, it happens to child stars and others who have success at a really young age, with apparent ease.

Check back with Elizabeth Holmes on that one after a few years.

Most of us don’t develop a conscious interest in the Divine until we need it.

All that, folks, is about human life. In the case of Elizabeth Holmes, she is a young woman who has focused hard to do something that makes her successful. Something that also helps people. And not having 17 heads and 34 arms, she has had to specialize in life.

Doing some things rather than others — what’s wrong with that? It’s not wickedness. Not being spiritual bankrupt.

For one extreme example of being very much about religion and spirituality, consider this. Adolph Hitler and his pals were very public Christians. True believers and then some. According to historical scholar Jim Walker:

The German words, “Gott Mit Uns” means “God With Us” and appeared on many Nazi soldiers belt buckles during WWII. To see the buckle, click here.

Funny old Earth School! Like Hitler, though also very unlike Hitler, people in spiritual addiction can flunk at that “Doing good in the world.” They also believe they are spiritual, even among the world’s spiritual elite.

Yet the objective reality sniff test may not go so well for them. Nor a study of that person through aura reading. Oops!

So where would you look for discerning whether a person is “spiritual”?

It’s really fascinating to consider which aspects of life you think would be examined in order to assess spiritual goodness. Including aspects of life that could correspond to chakra databanks.

You name the human aspect of life. I will get as close as I can to a relevant subconscious-level chakra databank. Sound like fun?

How about commenting below? What do you think makes a spiritual person tick? Is it emotional, intellectual, physical, material, financial, or simply about personally connecting to Spiritual Source?

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  1. 1
    Kira says:

    I don’t have anything to say yet, but I’m looking forward to everyone else’s comments. This topic is fascinating.

  2. 2
    Rachel says:

    I agree, this topic is fascinating.

    My immediate reaction to the question, “What makes a person spiritual?” is that it might be to do with integrity and honesty.

    That is, the more “spiritual” a person is, the more honest they are and the more integrity they have.

  3. 3
    Rachel says:

    But even as I write that, of course I realise that non spiritual people can be very honest and have high levels of integrity too.

    I’m moved to mull over the question… what makes a person ‘spiritual?’

    Is it simply an interest in spirituality? I doubt it, because that might just be intellectual.

  4. 4
    Rachel says:

    Is it a ‘something inside them’ that has caused them to seek answers, to look for meaning beyond the surface of life?

    You wrote something, Rose, about how people don’t really start looking for God until they need Him (excuse the paraphrasing). Maybe it is suffering that pushes people in the direction of spirituality.

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    Rachel says:

    Or maybe ‘spirituality’ is simply something that adds value to life, so that life is not SIMPLY eating and drinking and making money, finding shelter etc. So that one has a sense of one’s place in the grand scheme of things.

  6. 6
    Rachel says:

    I am reminded, in my ramblings, of a quote by Phillip Pullman:

    ” ‘The stars are alive, child! Did you know that? Everything out there is alive, and there are grand purposes abroad! The universe is full of intentions, you know. Everything happens for a purpose.’”

  7. 7
    Rachel says:

    I might quibble over the last sentence a bit, but maybe being spiritual is simply about having that sense of magic in life, of taking part in some amazing play whose meaning we can never fully grasp.

    Or maybe I am just rambling incoherently 🙂

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    Sarah says:

    I love your comments, Rachel! They remind me of a conversation that I had with a family member recently (which was not explicitly “spiritual” in nature), in which we were pondering the difference between doing an ordinary, daily task, and doing it in a way that allowed us to experience the “sparkle” of it.

  9. 9
    Sarah says:

    You’re still walking to work, or shopping for groceries, or washing the dishes, but for some reason there’s an extra “sparkle” (or as you say, “sense of magic”) which makes it inexplicably delightful.

    But as I said, in this conversation we were having, no one said the word “spiritual” out loud.

  10. 10
    Sarah says:

    I like to think that most of the markers I would use for measuring spirituality are consequences, not causes.

    Of course one could have integrity without being spiritual–but maybe the more spiritual one is, the less it makes sense for them to act without integrity.

  11. 11
    Sarah says:

    But then gosh, does it even make sense to talk about someone as being “more” spiritual?

    Is it like saying someone is “more” human than another, or “more” American, or “more” Christian, when the members of these groups themselves are all in the process of collectively defining what it means to be human, or American, or Christian?

  12. 12
    Sarah says:

    Then the real question for me would be: who else, besides the Earth-walking humans, counts as “spiritual,” and is therefore participating in this collective definition?

    Animals? Rocks? Clouds?

    What ISN’T participating?

  13. 13
    Sarah says:

    Is there a separate chakra databank for “connection to all-that-is”, or is that the same thing as “connection to spiritual source?”

    I think I’ve fallen down some kind of rabbit hole… 🙂

  14. 14
    Brandi says:

    This is fun! The human aspect of life I am curious about is Yoga. I have this idea maybe if I dedicated myself to a practice I would be “more spiritual”.

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    Leo says:

    Through the lens of reincarnation, it’s easy to make the case that everyone is spiritual: the crackhead, the ego-maniacal millionaire, the renunciate. Everyone is playing out a lifetime based on life contracts and human choices. Everyone is learning something important in their lifetime and repaying karma.

    Adopting this mentality has gone a long way to helping me accept others and their choices. I used to want to save everyone around me, but now I respect that their paths are sacred, even if I perceive them to be disgusting, tragic, or silly. We’re all on the wheel karma….

  16. 16
    Rachel says:

    Sarah,

    I love your comments too, especially no. 10: “most of the markers I would use for measuring spirituality are consequences, not causes.”

    What an interesting thought.

  17. 17
    Rachel says:

    Maybe, to return to Rose’s question, there are other qualities similar to integrity, which, as you say, simply make more sense when a person has developed a stronger sense of spirituality.

    Such as kindness, for example.

    That goes back to Rose’s question. Is it possible to see ‘kindness’ in a person’s aura? I’m sure it must be.

    Again though, that doesn’t mean that you have to be spiritual to be kind, but maybe it just makes more sense.

  18. 18
    Rachel says:

    I remember reading once about maxims such as ‘honesty is the best policy.’ A psychiatrist was explaining that such sayings can guide us when we are lost.

    Someone who lives by such received wisdom is ‘borrowing’ it, but the finest wisdom comes when a person doesn’t simply believe that honesty is the best policy because they have been told it, but really knows it in their bones. Like: honesty really IS the best policy.

    Still, I’m not really sure that this answers Rose’s question!

  19. 19

    BRANDI, I agree. This is fun.

    I’m just fascinated by comments here, the quality of thought and honesty.

    Thanks so much to everyone contributing here.

  20. 20
    Meg says:

    ROSE,

    Just for the record, I thought I put
    question marks to both of my comments.
    I meant no disrespect to Ms. Holmes.
    If she can be rich and help others,
    then more power to her.

    It was your comment, “Selfless people
    do not make money, as a rule” that
    made me do a double-take. 🙂

    I’ve always believed in that old maxim,
    “The more I give, the more I have.”

  21. 21

    LEO, reincarnation makes a very useful basis for the sort of belief you expressed in Comment 15.

    Even more useful is directly experiencing through past-life regression what some of those lifetimes have been for YOU, the long history of your own soul.

    However, it is really important to be a smart consumer of past-life regression. I recommend Soul Energy Awakening Hypnosis(R), of course, as one method that will not inadvertently trigger frozen blocks from the past but, instead, permanently remove them and add PUT IN that expresses your soul more fully, as you are at your best in this lifetime.

    For any who are planning to buy yourself a really good gift for this new year, consider a session with someone trained in this distinctive form of past-life regression.

  22. 22

    And to take that sort of learning further, the very best way to start fathoming the mysteries you summarized in your Comment 15 is to learn the skill set.

    Few things I have done in my life have taught me as much as facilitating sessions of Soul Energy Awakening Hypnosis.

    No training dates have been announced yet, I know, but they are coming. I’m still figuring out what I will do when and how.

  23. 23

    Incidentally, a highlight of this wonderful day has been receiving the first proof copy of the print-on-demand edition of “The Empowered Empath.”

    This will be my first book printed as print-on-demand. Quite the learning curve this has been, yowza!

    Looks like I really will be making that publication date scheduled for January 12, 2015. 🙂

  24. 24

    MEG, I loved your comment. Didn’t think any disrespect was intended, either.

    I loved the honesty and how you provided a really important teachable moment.

    It is very common for people to think along the lines of, “If this person doesn’t have a strong subconscious and energetic connection to the Divine, she has lost out.” Or “She can’t possibly be spiritual.”

  25. 25

    I think it is very important for all of us to explore this kind of thinking. Just one example, this was one of the motivators for my spending years to research and write “Magnetize Money with Energetic Literacy

    Being on a householder path to Enlightenment makes considerations like this very tricky. Very practical. Absolutely necessary.

  26. 26
    Zelda says:

    MEG, when I read your comment that sparked the continued conversation, my thought was that Elizabeth Holmes is being guided in some way, but just isn’t necessarily aware of it and seemingly not focused on exploring the nature of such connections. She’s way too busy running that business.

  27. 27
    Zelda says:

    That’s my take. I don’t mean it in any kind of snarky way, but I actually don’t really think along the lines of who is spiritual and who isn’t. It doesn’t make much sense to me to focus too much on that label.

    Especially given the way New Age-y terms have been tossed around in recent years.

  28. 28
    Zelda says:

    Thanks, Rose, for this fascinating reading!

    I would so love for Elizabeth Holmes to revolutionize the world of lab testing.

    I have had direct contact with the 2 multi-billion dollar labs mentioned in the New Yorker article. They currently dominate the industry.

    I’ve had upwards of 30 blood tests in the past several months and the business practices of one of these companies is incredible.

  29. 29
    Zelda says:

    After much wrangling, I got my insurance company to pay for the tests. As I sorted out the billing, I realized that I was being charged and had paid 5 times the price the insurance paid for a simple blood test.

  30. 30
    Zelda says:

    Just because the company is so big that they can get away with it. Consumers basically have no recourse.

    I would love to see Ms. Holmes have an impact on those kinds of practices by offering stiff competition!

    I admire and have been inspired by her focus and dedication.

  31. 31
    Meg says:

    ZELDA,

    I too believe that Ms. Holmes is being
    guided; her actions are bringing so much
    good to others, that I consider this to
    be spiritual in and of itself.
    “By their fruits you will know them.”

  32. 32
    Meg says:

    ROSE,

    Good, I’m glad.
    Thank you for this blog.
    I’m really enjoying all the exchange of
    thoughts and ideas, and done so in the
    spirit of generosity.

    God bless us all, everyone! 😀

  33. 33
    Christine says:

    I think being spiritual is when one has faith and lives his life in truth. Live your life being honest and always doing the right thing. Love and respect yourself and others. Someone who cares about all living creatures and wouldn’t hurt anyone intentionally. Someone who is a seeker, wants to find answers and evolve to something even better. Someone who is searching for peace. Looks within for answers and knows there is something greater.. One who is in search of their life purpose.. someone who is open minded. Spirituality is something very deep within..

    Being spiritual has nothing to do with religion in my opinion. Religious dogma is all man made rules that people follow.. I find religion to teach lies, hate and separation.

  34. 34
    Primmie says:

    Happy Christmas everyone, I hope you have a wonderful day xxx

    I still really dislike the word spiritual. It makes me think of the 19th century and dubious psychics. I also really don’t know what it means to be spiritual but these days I do absolutely love god and that’s wonderful so I suppose I know a little more about it than I used to.

  35. 35
    Primmie says:

    Happy Christmas everyone, I hope you have a wonderful day xxx

    I still really dislike the word spiritual. It makes me think of the 19th century and dubious psychics.

    I also really don’t know what it means to be spiritual but these days I do absolutely love god and that’s wonderful so I suppose I know a little more about it than I used to.

  36. 36
    Primmie says:

    Mostly for me it’s just about having an open heart and living my ordinary life. It’s nice to be connected to happiness and I trust that. That’s as deep as it goes for me, I feel love and that is wonderful. The process, if I can call it that, is that I become more loving and over time clean up my less desirable traits and more fully enjoy the parts of me that are lovely.

    I’m still roughly hewn in some areas so there’s definitely a lot I don’t know, but it’s nice to know I am somewhat spiritual and understand a little of what it is to be connected to god.

  37. 37
    Lara says:

    I guess I think that all of us are evolving to express or embody as fully as possible all the different aspects of our make up.

    All of these aspects can be considered spiritual in the sense that they are part our divinely created selves, one part of which is the ability to consciously connect with the divine.

  38. 38
    Lara says:

    Some lifetimes specialise in certain ones like power, wealth, poverty, health, etc, some maybe in developing a ‘spiritual connection’ in the third eye sense.

    Ultimately all of these are necessary for ‘spiritual’ evolution. Isn’t that the essence of humanly evolving spirituality?

    Elizabeth Holmes may not be experiencing her larger consciousness spiritually but through other aspects.

  39. 39
    David.. says:

    Sarah – I’d suggest honesty is a part of it, but not on the level of “I will not tell a lie”. More, it’s self-honesty. Being real and clear within will result in a natural honesty in the world.

  40. 40
    David.. says:

    And if the heart is a little awake, it can be a soft rather than harsh honesty. A “sweet” truth can be shared.

  41. 41
    David.. says:

    I’d also agree with integrity. Recall that Rose describes a marker for enlightenment as relatively balanced chakra databanks. This means a relatively balanced way of being.

    Not a lollipop nor a pyramid. When our physiology is balanced and we’re relatively clear of Stuff, we’re more naturally going to express integrity. Again what is inside will express outside.

  42. 42
    David.. says:

    On the other hand, judging another on those factors can be misleading. As Rose notes, judging by the chakra databanks is much more accurate.

  43. 43
    Sandra says:

    Spirituality is, to me, seeing God in all sorts of places, including unexpected ones. Then the feeling of love that follows that observation.

  44. 44
    Kira says:

    Sandra, I really like that definition!

  45. 45
    Kira says:

    I’m not sure this is the right place for it, but I just read an interesting article about philosophers arguing over what consciousness is that a) reminded me of the interesting discussion here about what it means to be spiritual and b) made me want desperately to know that someone somewhere is going to do scientific studies of Rosetree Energy Spirituality.

    Here is the link:
    http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jan/21/-sp-why-cant-worlds-greatest-minds-solve-mystery-consciousness#img-1

  46. 46
    Kira says:

    About b) in my previous comment, I really want to see Stage 3 Energetic Literacy taken into consideration in discussions like this article covers.

  47. 47

    Oh, KIRA, you and me both.

    Calling all you scientists and fans of aura healing and transformation, all you folks who know that energetic literacy skills can be so accurate, insightful, and reliable.

    Any research studies that you can design and publish, or get funding for, you just know I will be so eager to work with you. So grateful for your skilled help.

    In this life, I do have some skills and talents. They do NOT include my being a scientist.

  48. 48
    Kira says:

    I don’t know why I didn’t think of this before, but what about someone from I0NS? This should be very much in line with what they do.

    IONS stands for Institute of Noetic Sciences.
    http://noetic.org/

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