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Talking with Mr. New Age Movement. Guest post Part Two by JEM.

 

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Ugliness can be hidden in plain sight

Let’s complete this guest post by JEM, begun in yesterday’s article, An Alarming New Age Conversation. A guest post by JEM.  She recounts a rather extreme version of what is happening to some New Agers since The Shift into The Age of Aquarius. Still, I wonder, have you Blog-Buddies had similar conversations with people in spiritual addiction?

If so, did you say anything back other than the usual spiritually correct encouragement? Such as:  “How lovely. You are absolutely perfect in every way.”

  • Do you know proud New Agers who are also down to earth and interact well with those who don’t share their beliefs? Or some who are more like Mr. New Age Movement?
  • Same with members of organized religions. Are you finding more extremists now than in years before? Or are these folks adapting beautifully to the higher vibes on earth right now?
  • Do you know some empaths who consider themselves psychic empaths or intuitive empaths and have likewise jumped off the deep end? Or are those empaths getting skills and living well, rather than freaky?

Please comment below with your experiences with folks who have slipped into The Romance of the Astral. Now, you go, JEM!

My dear friend’s identity had shifted into “Mr. New Age Movement”

In effect, I was not having a conversation with this wonderful young man, who I love and admire so much. I was having a conversation with Mr. New Age Movement, as typical New Age beliefs have been programmed into him. Seems to me, the New Age movement has hijacked him.

If Spiritual Addiction were an archetypal force with its own personality, beliefs, opinions and approaches, it would have been just like the conversation I had with my friend.

Alarming? Painful? Infuriating? Yes, yes, yes. However that conversation was valuable because my memory has been refreshed — in detail — about how damaging and ridiculous a spiritually-addicted person’s programmed consciousness is.

In retrospect some of the things Mr. New Age Movement told me during our conversation were interesting. I’m going to summarize the rest of that conversation for you.

Willing to reconsider the much hyped Law of Attraction beliefs?

I told him Mr. New Age Movement about spiritual addiction as I understand it from Rose’s book about making more money.

I told him how The Secret and Abraham-Hicks influence our systems.

Mr. New Age Movement said he understood and resonated with those concepts.

Mellow agreement without actually listening

The New Age Movement replied that I was being fearful and paranoid.

Good move! Any budding initiate who has a moment of sanity and questions something, is met with profound “YOU’RE BEING FEARFUL, NEGATIVE AND PARANOID!!” judgments.

That’s a great cult-like way to erode self authority, objective thought and rationality. The premise is that everything everywhere is sweetness and light and that we are energetically invincible as a birthright.

I told Mr. New Age Movement that if he truly believes the astral is real, then being mindful of what he does is the same as being mindful if he was walking down a city street at 3:am. It’s not paranoid, it’s just sensible reality. I suggested that if I saw him about to put his hand in a fire and said “Look out!” he wouldn’t consider me fearful, but pragmatic.

Protecting himself energetically, according to Mr. New Age Movement

The New Age Movement went on to tell me, through my friend’s voice, that really all we have to do is just trust what feels good to us.

Then it said that he is now firmly lodged in Observer Consciousness. So when he is getting stoned, or doing any energy work, he is protected.

I suggested that if Observing Consciousness had really taken over — As if that’s desirable! — he might not require marijuana to relax or connect.

Mr. New Age Movement retorted that that was my judgment, my truth.

The premise is there is not a set of actual truths, all is subjective. Anyone who disagrees with you is being “Judgmental.”

To me, Observer Consciousness is a force like gravity. It always acts the same, like gravity does. It certainly has to filter through STUFF, and that can make for unique experiences.

The New Age Movement said, via my friend, that nowadays he would not pick up any STUFF. Because he communicates with all astral energy that approaches him and strikes deals with it.

He sometimes tells things they can share his space but can’t invade.

So polite, so civilized!

And gosh, he must be SUPERCONSCIOUS to have the capacity to notice every single astral event, particularly those that take a splitsplitsplitsplitsplitsplit second!

Damaging belief: if we have a little bit of awareness of energy, we must have all the necessary awareness. If we think we can control some aspects, supposedly, we must automatically be fully safe.

Substance abuse combined with spiritual addiction

Mr. New Age Movement also said his intuition told him to smoke dope.

I once knew a professional psychic whose guides told her to drink six cans of Jim Beam a night. Eventually she began drinking alcoholically but “It was alright”, according to her, “Because it was all her guides’ idea.”

Damaging premise: trust your intuition no matter what. Don’t question.

This teamed with a dearth of skills to actually access real intuition sure can result in people believing their spirits are recommending they take drugs.

I got quite frustrated during this convo. Mainly because I care about this guy and can see how his mindset is really hindering him.

All his friends are like him. They all reinforce each other. That equates to dozens of seriously gifted people, enslaved and ineffective.

This is epidemic. It may be just a phase for humanity, however I feel compelled that we must spread the word.

Isabelle will be noticing the wonderful differences of overcoming spiritual addiction. I want that for all of us. Because floating around in spiritual addiction will not really change the world. Ironically, isn’t that often the mission of many New Agers?

 

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  1. 1
    Elaine says:

    Great post. I’m just a little confused. Part 1 and Part 2 sounds like it was written by two different people… or in two vastly different time frames.

  2. 2
    Tehya says:

    BRAVO! So well said and elucidating.

    It IS an epidemic.

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    ELAINE, that confusion may be an artifact of your imagination about characters who time travel.

    JEM’s guest post came in as one very long comment. I broke it into two articles because I thought there was a lot to consider, whether people agreed or not.

  4. 4

    TEHYA, thank you for sharing from your experience.

    Other Blog-Buddies, are many people you know falling into spiritual addiction? Or do most of these folks balance their human lives pretty darned well?

    Let’s hear from more of you for this informal survey.

  5. 5

    I did use to have nice, grounded conversations with a friend of mine. She was so into the human, so practical, so successful. Within the past couple years, everything for her has become about the energy. She quit the professional training she has LOVED, because she decided her instructor’s energy was bad. And her husband’s energy is bad. Apparently, my energy is good, because she still talks to me…

  6. 6

    Many people in my area (though certainly not all) have become quite extreme in their fears and beliefs. Some of my former friends decided they can’t be my friend anymore because my profession challenges their belief systems.

    Others are nagging me in a fearful way to please come to church. Having a personal relationship with the Divine doesn’t matter to these people. What’s important is having a good relationship to the church…

  7. 7

    I do have a friend who has always been into New Age, and, yet, she seems well grounded. She is a hard worker in current human objective reality, and it’s fun to be around her. I’ve not read her aura, but she seems to be living her life in human-based spirituality.

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    Another friend of mine has always been involved in her church, still is, but she accepts me for me, unconditionally. She is such a fun person to be around! I’ve not read her aura, either, but based on what she says and does in current human objective reality, she seems to also be living her life in human-based spirituality.

  9. 9

    I guess my point is that yes, I’ve noticed people I like and love becoming quite extreme in one way or another. Clinging to something -anything – for “safety.” Or maybe “sanity.” But I’ve also noticed there are people involved in religion or New Age, and yet they stay balanced.

  10. 10

    JESSICA, what a fine series of comments.

    I hope to hear from some of you other Blog-Buddies as well. This short series of articles is one of the most controversial I have ever made live at the blog.

    So definitely, Blog-Buddies, don’t be shy about sharing YOUR point of view, too.

  11. 11
    Cathy says:

    Yes Rose, I have noticed a lot more extreme behaviour in the last few years, and it scares me. I thought it was just me.
    I guess I have to wonder, having been raised on good old Christian ethics and ‘end of the world beliefs’, how on earth things are going to turn out when so many people are giving in to spiritual addiction (in the forms of fanaticism and vigilante behavior), other addictions, including the seemingly gigantic growth in child pornography, pornography, and violence being accepted on our police and army forces, whether or not its called for. How on earth are that many people going to change? Maybe that’s the empath in me, worrying about them 😉

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    Lilian says:

    “So definitely, Blog-Buddies, don’t be shy about sharing YOUR point of view, too.”

    really :-p do you call the forces of the internet upon your blog?

    I agree with Cathy, all kinds of addiction seem to be becoming more common. I would put internet and digital addiction to that list.

    “I guess my point is that yes, I’ve noticed people I like and love becoming quite extreme in one way or another. Clinging to something -anything – for “safety.” Or maybe “sanity.””

    Yes. I guess everyone is finding things intense and/or losing the skills to cope and/or prefer not to.

    At the moment I really like my job at the bank. Having sensible conversations about money on the phone has been just the thing I was needing!

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    Kira says:

    I’m not really noticing spiritual addiction among my friends. I have noticed spiritual shutdown in some, but they’ve basically been that way for as long as I’ve known them.

    So has the one acquaintance I can think of who might be spiritually addicted; it’s hard to tell with her, because she seems to be the type of person who wants to be the center of attention by outdoing everyone around her, so when she talks about how she suffers because she’s oh-so-sensitive, it’s hard to tell (for me, with Stage 0 Energetic Literacy) whether she is just making it up to feel like she belongs somewhere.

  14. 14
    Kira says:

    (I say “Stage 0” because if I do get vibes about people, they very, very rarely make it to my conscious mind. For whatever reason, I’ve had several instances of being the only one in various groups who wasn’t instantly turned off by or wary of specific individuals. It might be related to an ability I apparently have to completely block someone with Stage 2 Energetic Literacy from reading me.)

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    Julie says:

    I notice a lot of people around me choosing not to grow or being willfully stubborn and resistant to change.

    I also see addiction of various kinds – internet gambling, alcohol, and pot, rescuing stray animals but then not taking good care of them, etc.

    And I see ways of checking out such as excess TV and movie watching, to the point of not having a life outside of that.

    I would say that many people in my work are spiritually shut down. Although one that I know is in spiritual addiction and becoming more so.

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    Zelda says:

    I’m meeting more people who seem to be engaged in human-based spirituality. There are plenty of people in addictions of various types, including spiritual addiction, though I just steer clear now.

  17. 17
    Zelda says:

    There’s both spiritual shutdown and addiction at one of my workplaces, with the greatest challenge in dealing with folks being the degree to which they are cut off from emotions. That can definitely be harsh!

  18. 18
    Zelda says:

    I’ve mentioned a couple of friendships I needed to move away from due to the extent of spiritual addiction the people had moved into.

    I reached a point of not being willing or able to tolerate the lack of true connection due to the addiction.

    This was quite an experience for me in each case.

  19. 19
    Zelda says:

    There’s been a clear shift for me in terms of what I’m able to tolerate and what is best to steer away from, even if it means having fewer friends at the moment.

    I find spiritual addiction to be rather chilling, frankly, probably because the last relative I thought I could count on in a pinch is not available due to her extreme emphasis on meditation.

    Best I can figure is that she cannot tolerate someone not taking her advice to meditate. Baffling, but this is the reality apparently.

  20. 20
    Lilian says:

    “It might be related to an ability I apparently have to completely block someone with Stage 2 Energetic Literacy from reading me.”

    Can I have that!? People who can kind of read people but not quite, can be the most destructive!

  21. 21
    Lilian says:

    Zelda: it is tough figuring out who to connect to. Dealing with people not connected to reality is the hardest. It may be due to spiritual addiction, it may just be their arrogance and wanting things their way or no way etc.

    May everyone be blessed with nice, sensible, interesting, acquaintances and friends. 🙂

  22. 22

    Just for the record, Blog-Buddies, here is my perspective as a teacher of aura reading.

    Nobody can block anyone with true energetic literacy.

    So that’s one of the ways a person might inadvertently provide a clue that the literacy development process is still… under development.

  23. 23

    Big thanks to everyone who has commented at this thread so far.

    Many folks in spiritual addiction have a horror of paying attention to how others are doing. We’re told “Judge not, lest you be judged,” etc.

    Fact is, discernment does not mean the same as being judgmental. In this Age of Aquarius, it behooves us to pay attention as smart consumers, practical people, loyal friends, etc.

  24. 24

    Incidentally, I am going to start using the term “Age of Aquarius” rather than “Age of Energy.”

    Partial though I have been to the latter term, it isolates this blog from conversations going on all over the world (and the Internet) that are calling this time the “Age of Aquarius.” Google hits can be iffy, but really, compare well over 6 million hits for “Age of Aquarius” to so few hits for “Age of Energy“!

    In fact, I’m going now to change the name in blog categories as well.

    Much to do, just to keep up with this rapidly evolving world!

  25. 25
    Gail says:

    I appreciate your perspective so much.

    I was recently kicked off of a Law Of Attraction forum for suggesting that a questioner can judge mean people as inappropriate for her.

  26. 26
    Gail says:

    Very cult like. I was still shocked when I was kicked off, but I realized the a big wig in the teachings of loa regularly disabused people of their judgement, so, the moderator was being a true disciple.

  27. 27
    Gail says:

    How can a belief system that that touts self as the most important actually have an authority?

    Because the inspiration for these cults is not divine, but astral, and just because someone says they are positive doesn’t mean they are…

  28. 28
    Gail says:

    Astral does not equal pure positive energy. And pure positive energy doesn’t promote passivity in the face of evil.

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