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Aura Reading Victoria Tomasheski, a "Christian" Missionary at an American Public School

Doesn't every good hearted teacher wish to be honest and kind, an inspiration?

Doesn’t every good- hearted teacher wish to be honest and kind, an inspiration?

It’s not every day when a casual look at the headlines in the day’s newspaper makes me angry.

I’m practiced at not letting myself go there, into the Lande of Indignation. But then I was not reading about the newspaper’s usual Places of Hideosity. Nope, today’s read (in the print edition) was captioned, “A mission for Jesus in the public schools.” The reporter was Emma Brown.

Did you know that Victoria Tomasheski is paid by her church to do missionary work in a public school?

Wait, she is paid by an American public school. To. Work. As. A. Teacher.

However, the Christian Educators Association has “empowered” teachers like her to express their faith with new boldness.

And yes, throughout this article I am placing the word “Christian” in quotes, for reasons you can read about in this article about so-called “Christian” behavior, in contrast to the personal faith of followers of Jesus who are not Christians in name only.

A Lofty Goal. To Some.

According to the article in today’s Washington Post, the Christian Educators Association International is an organization that sees the nation’s public schools as “the largest single mission field in America.” They aim to show Christian teachers how to… evangelize in public schools…  without running afoul of the Constitution’s prohibition on the government establishing or promoting any particular religion.

“We’re not talking about proselytizing. That would be illegal,” Finn Laursen, the group’s executive director, told the Post reporter. “But we’re saying you can do a lot of things.?.?.?. It’s a mission field that you fish in differently.”

Schoolteacher Victoria Tomasheski was also quoted in that article, saying,”Mr. Laursen, it’s impossible to fish in a field. Can’t you find a better metaphor for what we’re doing?”

Joke! She expressed her hope that “living according to biblical principles” creates a “nurturing environment” and sparks those around her to ask questions.

“When they ask: ‘Why are you so positive? Why do you always find a silver lining?’ It’s, ‘To be honest with you, it’s because of my faith,’?” she said.

Yes that is evidently Victoria Tomasheski’s version of “being honest.” To go fishing for souls in her middle school in suburban Cleveland, aiming to convert as many students as possible, always watchful to avoid being caught breaking the law.

Interesting?

Usually Missionary Zealots Don’t Have Much of a Showing, Spiritually, in Their Auras

For years, reading the auras of Fundamentalist activists of different faiths has been a minor hobby of mine. It’s interesting to start at the Third Eye Chakra Databank for Connection to Spiritual Source, because it’s almost always a sad little, stumpy, confused wad of unused potential.

Then reading additional chakra databanks is a fascinating way to pursue what is really animating each true believer.

My novel for empaths contains a great deal of social satire; I had a field day with creating warring groups of religious extremists. Maybe some of you read it and remember “The Dances of the Righteous,” for instance.

Well, in honor of Victoria Tomasheski and her ilk, today I’m going to debut a new different type of aura reading, “A Self-Realization Aura Reading.”

The Self-Realization Aura Reading Approach

For this, I’ll research two different types of information in each chakra databank:

  • A gift of the soul — pure potential, always lovely.
  • The business end of a chakra databank — that ever-changing, who-you-be-right-now. Current size and quality of that chakra databank! This shows how well the person is doing at the time of the photo.
  • One of the defining characteristics of Enlightenment or Self-Realization is that the individual is using all of the gifts of the soul. Naturally. All chakra databanks are working just fine.
  • Incidentally, some of the people from this RES Community, who live in Enlightenment, ARE lifelong Christians. They’re just not “Christians.”

Of course, all of us are doing the best we can.

Look, There’s Spiritual/Religious Teaching and Then There’s Spiritual/Religious Teaching 😉

Some of us, Rose Rosetree included, feel a calling to serve others as a spiritual or religious teacher. But this particular Enlightenment Coach is really not a fan of INFLICTING a path on those who have not requested it. Especially children. Are you?

So let’s use this photo of Victoria Tomasheski to research just how well she is doing right now at a level where she cannot lie, because auras tell the truth (except in the case of world-class actors). To her it’s a sacred thing, apparently, to sneak up on potential converts and sweeten them along until they join her Movement. We’ll she’s entitled to a belief system that negates the role of free will in religion.

Even so, America’s constitution allows each person to have religious liberty. Plus we have laws about the separation of church and state.

So here’s an interesting aura reading-type question. Even if Victoria Tomasheski’s view of spiritual teaching were perfect. Even if it were her paying job to teach people about God. Even if she were teaching adults, not minors. Even if she taught religion in a setting that didn’t violate America’s separation of church and state….

What kind of standing does she have in consciousness to teach religion? Aura reading reveals the truth of a person’s energetic and subconscious experience. In detail. And more directly than any nice-sounding dogma.

So Here We Go, Blog-Buddies, with Today’s

Self-Realization Aura Reading of Teacher-Preacher Victoria Tomasheski

Aura Reading Root Chakra Databank for Connection to Spiritual Source

This chakra databank is about having personal experience of God or The Holy Spirit or whatever you happen to call your “Highest Power.”

Lifelong, Sacred, Gift of Victoria Tomasheski’s Soul

Love, enthusiasm, and the willingness to give all — to surrender all — to God. Sweet!

How She Is Doing Now. How Well Is She Using That Talent?

Of course, I’m reading what shows in this particular photo, like one in the print edition of the Washington Post article. Since chakra databanks change throughout our waking hours, it’s worth noting that she is teaching in a room with a photographer present, perhaps quite aware that she is being photographed in her missionary role.

1/8 inch. Complete shutdown, and this kind feels quite long-term. Earnestness is part of the quality.

Predominating, though, is an urgent fear of Hell — as in, “I must convert them rapidly because if they die, or the earth ends, the heathen will go straight to Hell for all eternity.”

By way of contrast, if you read this chakra databank on anybody on my Enlightenment Life List, or plenty of other people as well, this chakra databank can work great, delivering the direct experience of the Divine. As that unique soul is uniquely experiencing it.

By contrast, Victoria Tomasheski doesn’t seem to have much standing for teaching anybody else how to connect, personally with God. At least until she manages to do it herself.

Although she would be beautifully qualified to teach people who likewise prize living in a religious movement that isn’t really about God or Jesus but, rather, something else. Something like what Victoria Tomasheski has got: A stiff combination of dogmatic certainty and fear of The Devil.

Aura Reading Throat Chakra Databank for Verbal Integrity

This chakra databank is about telling the truth when you talk. I would hope that any spiritual or religious teacher would do that much, wouldn’t you?

Lifelong, Sacred, Gift of Victoria Tomasheski’s Soul

A lovely talent for explaining things in simple terms that are easy for people to understand (and doing this in a way that communicates truthfully).

How She Is Doing Now. How Well Is She Using That Talent?

2 inches. A combination of fuzzy and slimy.

  • Slimy because certain veracity contortions may have become habitual.
  • Fuzzy because, at the time of this photograph, Victoria Tomasheski is trying to communicate in a way that is complicated, quite hard for her.

Possibly that fuzziness occurs because, evidently, some requirements for this sort of missionary work are quite tricky. Fishing in a field, and all that!

In the Washington Post article Victoria Tomasheski was quoted as praising training she has received from the Christian Educators Association. Evidently that mission is a bit complicated, because part of what they learn is this (my italics):

“Teachers are told it’s okay to keep a Bible on their desk and teach about it in class, so long as it fits within the curriculum. And they are urged to witness for Jesus by acting in a godly manner, in part so that others might be provoked to wonder — and ask — why they have so much kindness and compassion.”

Wouldn’t most of us find that a pretty small needle to thread? And Victoria Tomasheski may not be terribly sophisticated to begin with, concerning laws and civics. Because she was quoted thus in the article:

“She said that she was grateful to learn about the First Amendment….”

Aura Reading Third Eye Chakra Databank for Spiritual Integrity

This chakra databank is for living up to one’s highest spiritual ideals.

Lifelong, Sacred, Gift of Victoria Tomasheski’s Soul

A sweet, emotionally charged desire to be a bright light in this world so that she can bear witness to God and inspire others. Lovely!

How She Is Doing Now. How Well Is She Using That Talent?

1/8 inch. Shutdown, as small as a chakra databank can be. Although they can always bounce back. And remember, Victoria Tomasheski’s gift of the soul here is absolutely lovely. Anyway, next comes my report on the quality of this chakra databank:

Secretly worrying that she is not doing well enough. Feeling inadequate about doing her spiritual role, yet also reveling in the complete forgiveness of God.

Intellectually I understand that this forgiveness is part of the grand bargain that matters so much for Evangelical Christians.

However, as an aura reader I must observe that, apart from the conflict and semi-guilty, icky feeling in her databank about spiritual integrity, the size tells us something as well.

How much can you trust the spiritual integrity of a person when her chakra databank for this is in shutdown?

Aura Reading Heart Chakra Databank for Emotional Giving (Acting in a Nurturing Manner)

Yes, I thought this chakra databank would be important to research for Victoria Tomasheski. When trained, the incognito missionaries are taught things like this:

“God sent Daniel, He sent Jesus. He’s sending you and me to be the light of the world… God has a plan, a good plan, for why he has planted you where you are.”

What is Victoria Tomasheski’s job, according to this plan, as interpreted by Christian Educators Association? To “have so much kindness and compassion.”

Might this be hard for Victoria Tomasheski to manufacture, given that her direct experience of the Divine (with all due respect for her sweet intentions) seems to be lacking?

If it’s any consolation, plenty of people with a gorgeous, huge, healthy showing at that chakra databank for “Connecting to Spiritual Source” don’t always act in a kind, compassionate manner. Why not? Because under the circumstances, that would be fake.

In Enlightenment, for instance, people act authentically. Some of you may have seen a recent candidate for the Enlightenment Life List, a picture-perfect guru of great renown, who recently “flunked” being included on that List. Flunked big time.

Despite the gorgeous, perfectly-styled guru beard and placid “saintly” expression. His looks were glorious. His aura? Not so much.

Okay, on with the show….

Lifelong, Sacred, Gift of Victoria Tomasheski’s Soul

Pure, sweet affectionate behavior flowing automatically, when Victoria Tomasheski feels happy.

Picture an adorable little girl who runs over to give you a hug. And means it.

How She Is Doing Now. How Well Is She Using That Talent?

10 inches. Very under-functioning, although not shut down. 🙂

Victoria Tomasheski tries hard to overcome her anger at things past, and to forgive. Heavy lifting!

Adding to the sense of burden in this chakra databank (currently) is the sense that she is supposed to act loving always, whenever in public, and in a way that is larger than life.

Aura Reading Heart Chakra Databank for Emotional Honesty With Herself

While doing those just-mentioned theological contortions, can Victoria Tomasheski be honest with herself? Let’s find out.

Lifelong, Sacred, Gift of Victoria Tomasheski’s Soul

Courageous Victoria Tomasheski is determined to learn the truth about her feelings whenever she asks.

How She Is Doing Now. How Well Is She Using That Talent?

90 miles. Waaaaay overfunctioning.

It’s like a huge battle, going on for years, with loads of hard struggles to be “Honest” with herself.

Victoria Tomasheski tries. She tries so very hard.

  • Part of the mess, I gather, involves sex; how she has been treated sexually; getting over the tremendous intensity of feeling wounded and vulnerable.
  • Much of the mess seems to involve a facet of Victoria Tomasheski’s belief system, that “Christian Forgiveness” is tremendously important. And that this is to be rigorously substituted for whatever she does happen to authentically feel emotionally.
  • In short, there’s a kind of lying to herself, when feeling sad, or ruined, or vengeful, or any negative emotion whatsoever. Then reflexively subsituting, “I forgive this. And thus I am forgiven.”

Personally, I’m a big fan of a different approach. RES experts facilitate permanent removal of energetic and emotional STUFF that causes terrible feelings like those to be perpetuated.

RES clients spontaneously feel better emotionally, more like themselves. This necessitates zero lying to self as a form of  “salvation” or “self-improvement.”

But there are many glorious paths for personal growth in this world. At the time of this photo, out of her love for God, Victoria Tomasheski seems to do a great deal of lying. And, just plain hard work.

Conclusion

Oh, Blog-Buddies, you’re so definitely invited to draw your own.

 

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  1. 1
    Kira says:

    I can’t remember a time when I was ever afraid of going to Hell, so I can’t relate directly to people who do have that fear; but I did experience a moment of complete loss of hope once in a dream, and I can see how people could be afraid of experiencing basically that for eternity.

    I just have never believed that such a place exists.

  2. 2
    Kira says:

    I feel sorry for those who do. Living to avoid things you fear is not nearly as joyful as living to do things you love.

    As a theorist, I can’t help but wonder (and this is not a question in search of an answer, it’s merely what comes to mind) if the fear leads to the shutdown of connection to Source, or the shutdown leads to the fear. I can see fairly clearly how the shutdown might lead to the fear, but I can see it the other way too.

  3. 3
    Kira says:

    (And I would guess that it could go either way, depending on the person.)

  4. 4
    Lilian says:

    What stands out for me is emotional vulnerability and her trying to work around that with a manufactured sense of service.

    I can relate. You over give as you don t want the people who have hurt you to have robbed your best qualities, to have made you less good a person.

    But your sense of balance with that can be way off. Overly black and white ideas about forgiveness feed into overly black and white ideas about salvation. She s forcing herself into that formula, so of course, she doesn’t see what s wrong in forcing others.

  5. 5
    Casandra says:

    This is fascinating.

    The article says she teaches middle school computer classes in suburban Cleveland.

    As someone who has personally taken many middle school computer classes in suburban Cleveland, I have my doubts that her students take her very seriously.

  6. 6

    CASANDRA, a remarkable coincidence indeed!

    And yet this article describes at least one community where such teaching-preaching is evidently taken quite seriously.

  7. 7

    Did you see the part of the article?

    “An elementary school teacher in rural Kentucky, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid drawing attention to his community, said that after attending a weekend training session, he started scheduling weekly meetings of a Fellowship of Christian Athletes club. Students gather in the school gym just before class begins — a time when they are normally socializing and eating breakfast.

    “Most weeks, at least 75 percent of the school’s students participate, listening and praying as guest speakers and other students offer prayer and testimony. ‘I feel overly blessed with how much I’m able to do with students as far as faith,’ the teacher said.

  8. 8
    Dana K says:

    The way its initially described, I was thinking along the lines of Casandra- yeah right, there’s a middle schooler that’s gonna ask you why you are so upbeat!

  9. 9
    Dana K says:

    Then you mentioned FCA and yup, I know those clubs.

    I grew up in Oklahoma and there was definitely Christian clubs at my high school, promoting of the clubs was done at school although the meetings I think were off campus, usually hosted at peoples houses, and yes high school teachers did speak at them.

  10. 10
    Dana K says:

    As a middle schooler and a high schooler that did attend a few meetings, my personal intentions were to get out of the house and socialize.

    It seems like an odd use of resources to me, seeing as most kids go to the church they get driven to on Sunday.

    That was the case with me anyhow, no matter the club, I went with my family to Catholic mass Sunday mornings.

  11. 11
    Dana K says:

    But I don’t suppose I know their full agendas.

    It’s a pretty large number of people that think that it doesn’t matter what happens during the week, as long as they show up to the “right” church on Sunday, they are forgiven, and they are going to the right place after they die.

    Very puzzling, indeed.

  12. 12
    Adam McIntosh says:

    What a strategy:

    “And they are urged to witness for Jesus by acting in a godly manner, in part so that others might be provoked to wonder — and ask — why they have so much kindness and compassion.”

    To me it feels like there is a bit of hubris in this approach.

  13. 13
    Adam McIntosh says:

    A deliberate plan to exude such a saintly glow that people cannot help but ask them – “Why are you such an amazing and good person? What’s your secret?”

    It just seems like a fantasy a teenager might have, rather than a serious organisational policy.

  14. 14

    Gee, ADAM, doesn’t that make you long to visit America? 😉

    Perhaps live TO in Oklahoma, like Dana K., or one of the milder parts of America’s “Bible Belt,: like where I reside.

    Especially while raising my son in the early years, I had contact with many Evangelical wives and mothers. They drove shiny SUVs, kept immaculate homes with Bible verses on the walls.

    They always looked their best, and tried so very hard to be such an inspiration that they might convert others.

  15. 15

    I remember going to some kind of meeting at a Lutheran church that one of them attended, my Mom buddy Gladys.

    Whatever the meeting was about, it wasn’t religious in nature, just held there.

    Exiting I was impressed with the huge driveway leading up to the highway, all rolling lawn of perfectly manicuared grass.

  16. 16

    And then, before turning onto the highway, I saw a huge sign. It was visible in my direction only, not showing to anybody who would be driving on the main road:

    THE MISSIONARY FIELD STARTS HERE.

  17. 17
    Adam McIntosh says:

    “THE MISSIONARY FIELD STARTS HERE.”

    Bleugh. That is offensive.

    In Australia, one term we use for someone making a big display of their specialness is “up yourself”, as in “he’s a bit up himself, isn’t he?”

  18. 18

    I like that, ADAM.

    And, gee, I suppose that since you live “Downunder” it might be considered really, really tacky to go UP, even a bit. 😉

    What are those other terms for inflated specialness? Do tell. Here in my beloved country (beloved still, for sure) we could get a LOT of use out of those expressions.

  19. 19
    Adam McIntosh says:

    Nice one Rose 🙂

  20. 20
    Adam McIntosh says:

    Other terms we use a lot for someone with an exaggerated sense of specialness are probably borrowed from the UK (reflecting our colonial history) – we use “tosser” or “wanker” as well.

    We have a thing called “tall poppy syndrome” here – we love to cut down people we think are putting on airs. Unfortunately, this national sport can also catch out a lot of people who are just high achievers and not up themselves.

  21. 21
    Adam McIntosh says:

    Oooh! Just remembered another one – tickets!

    “Jeez he’s got tickets on himself, though.”

  22. 22
    Irene says:

    If “Christianity” is truly the only path to God and the only way to avoid eternal damnation, then a student who is given exposure to many religions in a totally unbiased way, would of course choose “Christianity”.

    The fact that most “Christians” fear as toxic knowing about any other religions or questioning their own indicates that they they don’t actually believe it will stand up to scrutiny.

  23. 23
    Irene says:

    Unless this organization is offering training in making sure that all
    students and their religious beliefs are treated with equal respect, then they are promoting behavior that, even if it is not against the letter of the law – which it may well be, is definitely against the spirit of it.

    (And any such training would need to be vetted by non-“Christians” to be considered valid in my opinion.)

  24. 24
    Sarah says:

    Gross. :/

    But thank you for the aura reading, Rose. They are always inspiring, in one way or another…

  25. 25
    Lilian says:

    Rose, you live in a weird place at a weird time… I’ve been researching what it might be like to be a stay at home mum. (If I have kids, I would want to find a way not to work full time for the first five years…)

  26. 26
    Lilian says:

    And I saw the YouTube videos of the kind of mums you mentioned. It was kind of fascinating until I realised *why* they were killing themselves homeschooling their kids.

  27. 27
    Lilian says:

    I can’t imagine living close by to all of that.

  28. 28
    Irene says:

    I think this part of the article hit the nail on the head:

    “Sharif El-Mekki, a Muslim principal of a Philadelphia charter school, said he believes that children can learn powerful lessons when they see that teachers of different faiths are able to treat all of their students with equity.

  29. 29
    Irene says:

    But he said that teachers who are open about their faith also must be ultra-sensitive to ensuring that all students feel included. El-Mekki, who goes to the same place of worship as some of his students, said he thinks often about how to make sure that other students don’t feel slighted.

    “How do I make sure that my Christian student, my atheist student, feels respected and honored?” he said. “At the end of the day, that’s my North Star.” “

  30. 30
    Irene says:

    I do prefer the “Christians” who wait to be asked about why they’re so awesome (that meant I can ignore them much more easily). It also turns a lot of their coercive tendencies inward rather than directly at others. Though I shudder to think about the amount of psychic coercion directed at these students.

    “Christianity” is a very should-based understanding of this religion

  31. 31
    Sarah says:

    Something I can’t stop thinking about is this “act in a godly manner so that others might be provoked to wonder” idea.

    It’s SOOOoo close to something I feel very strongly about, and aim to do myself in my daily life, and view as one of the highest forms of spiritual service:

    Doing one’s very human best, striving to be the very best version of oneself possible, and letting a combination of one’s auric modeling and active encouragement (when invited) help others to be the very best versions of themselves possible. In the most natural and authentic way possible.

  32. 32
    Sarah says:

    And yet, somehow, what is described here is an icky, icky, twisted, ego-driven version of that, wrapped up in a shiny fake smile and imagined divine blessing.

    Siiiggggghhhh.

  33. 33
    Sandra says:

    Thank you, Rose, for this most informative aura reading. I’m also enjoying the very wise comments that have been posted.

    So sad that her authenticity is sacrificed to this child manipulation called “missionary work.”

  34. 34
    Dana K. says:

    Just one more thing I wanted to mention, “Christian athletes” means the football players, the basketball players, etc.

    Basically in most high schools, “the cool kids.”

    So that’s another element of the coercion, social pressure being what it is in high school.

    Of course they don’t all participate. But it points to why you might get strangely high levels of participation, when you put out that it’s all dependent on a teacher being asked…

  35. 35

    Thanks so much to all of you who are contributing to this thread. There can be social pressures aplenty, and not just in middle school.

    It behooves any independent seeker of truth to acknowledge what is happening in society at large. (And also what happens in social or political groups with grand ideals… and inner motivations that are surprisingly selfish and small.)

  36. 36

    Back at your Comment 32, SARAH, you’ve described trenchantly one way to “bear witness” as a Christian.

    I have met people who do this.

    Ironic, perhaps, for a religion that is supposed to upgrade The 10 Commandments. Isn’t one of those Commandments “Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness Against Thy Neighbor”?

    In a non-legal way, a spirit-of-the-law way, isn’t lying about oneself in everyday life the ultimate version of bearing false witness?

  37. 37

    Yet most of the righteous “Christians” I’ve known, who walk around trying to convert others through their humble-bragging perfection… seems to me, they have not been motivated by ego, but by a kind of love.

    This reminds me of one time I lied in a comparable way.

    The shameful incident occurred back when I was teaching Transcendental Meditation (TM) on the North Shore of Boston, probably in 1974.

    I was at the home of two “strong meditators,” Gladys and Joe. They had opened up their home to TM lectures; these people were lovely and generous supporters of our TM center (where I was one of the leaders).

  38. 38

    Chatting with them after an event, Joe asked me, “Are you Enlightened?”

    Of course I wasn’t. I was a hot mess. Or would have called myself that, if the term had been invented yet. Instead I privately used the vernacular of the time to assess my standing in life: “neurotic and fucked up.”

  39. 39

    Still, I wanted so much to be a credit to Maharishi and The Teaching. When I had been initiated in January 1969, we were told that if we meditated regularly we would reach Enlightenment in 5-8 years.

    Here I was. It had been five years. I was their link to Maharishi. I wanted to inspire Joe and Gladys.

    Heaven only knows all that motivated me. But I did know I was lying when I looked them straight in the eye and said, “Yes.”

  40. 40

    Even my tone of voice betrayed the guilt that I felt, with a totally false ring to the word and a wobbliness as I looked them both in the eye and, simultaneously, hid from their view.

    “Christians” might call how I looked “Guilty as sin.”

    It was a cautionary experience for me, like burning my hand on a hot stove.

  41. 41

    So, SARAH, I’m not in a position to assume that people always have a show-off motivation when they lie for their God, or their religion, or their cult.

    But that experience did help to form me as a spiritual teacher. Although I’m not a fan of lying in most contexts, I have a visceral reaction to lies that are told in the name of worshipping God. A visceral reaction and even a kind of scream in my soul.

    And I promised myself to never, ever lie like that again.

  42. 42

    That strong reaction, after lying about something sacred, continues to motivate me when I encounter other people doing this in the name of religion or spirituality.

    This abhorrence is what led me, last Sunday, to drop all my plans once I started to read that newspaper article about teacher-preacher Victoria. I don’t especially like to write hypocrisy-revealing articles at my blog, yet sometimes I feel it’s important.

    Not to judge, but to warn. And also, in this case, to express rage.

  43. 43

    If I could talk to the members of the “Christian” Educators Association International, this is what I would say:

    “Lie to people about other things if you must. But don’t you ever, ever, lie to people about God. And don’t you ever, ever, ever tell that kind of lie to children.”

  44. 44
    Irene says:

    To be very clear, the below is talking about my experience as and with “Christians” not Christianity.

    These are generalizations that may not apply to every “Christian”. They definitely are not in line with what I understand to be Christian teachings.

  45. 45
    Irene says:

    Based on my exposure to “Christians”, they don’t think they’re lying. They think they’re telling the absolute truth. They think that they are showing the only way to God.

    If they do realize that they’re not quite as in line with their “Christian” teachings as they want to be/feel they should be, they don’t consider it a lie to talk about (their version of) God as the way to a better life.

  46. 46
    Irene says:

    Emotional self-honesty here would be the enemy as it is considered shameful to doubt or question the basic tenets of “Christianity”. (Seeking “God’s will” on esoteric interpretations is allowed/encouraged.)

    “Christians” believe that the way to get closer is to speak and act in line with their intellectual understanding of what they should be doing (basically fake it ’til they make it), particularly by doing more to witness to others. (Bringing others to “Christianity” is the ultimate in bonus points).

  47. 47
    Irene says:

    “Christianity” is not about respecting free will or individual choice, but much more about manipulation and coercion of oneself and of others for your and their greater good. At least this has been my experience growing up and having friends/family in this religion.

    Energetic literacy would really help clear this up, but the degree of spiritual shutdown in “Christian” circles makes that complicated!

  48. 48
    Irene says:

    In my opinion, what needs to be clearly communicated is the message that while they’re allowed to be “Christians”, they need to allow everyone else to belong to whatever religion they choose, regardless of whether “Christianity” encourages coercion and the avoidance of laws that restrict such coercion.

    The spirit of the law is non-coercion, mutual respect and acceptance. Which seems to me to be more in line with Christ’s teachings anyway.

  49. 49
    David B says:

    The bit at the beginning that she is PAID to do this? That for me is a big red flag. Conflict of interest on several levels.

    The process is so much about gaming the system. What about just doing your best and being a real example (not just superficial)?

  50. 50
    David B says:

    I know someone who’s a school teacher. She got into Landmark. A student asked her about it, so she told her and invited her to a meeting.

    The student had to bring a gaurdian but misrepresented it to them. They realized the sham when they arrived and made a stink, then to the school board.

  51. 51
    David B says:

    The school board almost fired her over it. Landmark kicked her out mid-course without explanation.

    Both had become very sensitive about such things as so many organizations are trying to game the schools.

    Telling that these schools are not. Bet they would be with a Muslim.

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    David B says:

    re: Comment 39
    An honest story, Rose. I recall the time when many teachers where idolized, seen as “so advanced”. In those days, a couple of extra years of meditating was “advanced”.

    I had the added complication of witnessing full time, seen then as a sign of “CC”. So some teachers where saying I was. Others viewed this as false claims. All driven by beliefs rather than what was here.

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    David B says:

    Sadly, you see managers of spiritual organizations, TM included, seeing themselves as “enlightened” in some self-congratulatory way when they know they’re not.

    That leads to failing to check the ego and being closed to feedback, etc…

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    Adam McIntosh says:

    Thanks for sharing that, Rose, and for being an enlightenment coach who is not pretending to be perfect.

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    Lilian says:

    That s interesting Rose, you say that people in spiritual shutdown know they re lying when they claim to be spiritually advanced. I would have thought that they may just be confused and be mislabelling a strong belief system.

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    Lilian says:

    By which I mean a “mental energy” based belief system.
    People can confuse strong emotions with spirituality too…

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    About that Comment #56, glad you asked, LILIAN. This is a tiny teachable moment.

    I didn’t mean to write, or imply, that people in spiritual shutdown know they are lying, when they are lying… etc.

    By asking, you’ve given me a chance to clear this up.

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    Instead what I meant to communicate — evidently not perfectly 😉 — was that there can be many motivations causing a person to lie or exaggerate… to self or others… in that way Teacher-Preacher Victoria has been trained to do purposely.

    I was just sharing a personal story to contrast with SARAH’s concluding comment in this little series. Her Comment #32.

    What SARAH wrote is surely true of some of Teacher-Preacher Victoria’s fellow missionaries. But not necessarily true of many or most. In human life, there are many variations on the theme of pain, right?

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    Lilian says:

    I agree it s tricky. I guess you need to read the verbal and spiritual integrity data banks to see if the “lie” is conscious. Of course stuff brings us faulty cognitions too.

    Personally, as you know, I have a mainly over functioning connection to spiritual source. But I still have always known that doesn’t mean I m enlightened. Instead I struggle having faith in myself as I can see my imperfections very clearly etc. but this lack of faith in self can also be based in faulty thinking. truth is tricky when we would rather it be a soundbite.

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    Dana K says:

    Wow I just had the weirdest coincidence! I dropped my kids off at preschool and then I went to a coffee shop to get breakfast.

    I was sitting there reading some of these comments on my phone, and then a man sat at the table next to me.

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    Dana K says:

    Someone he was meeting, a younger male adult, joined him. They began talking about young life!

    Meeting at one of the local schools! Young life and FCA are the main groups.

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    Dana K says:

    The young man didn’t have the best report. He had recounted about getting kicked out of the art room, and then getting kicked out of the gym.

    but oddly enough, he totally admitted that when they were using the art room, it was done secretly ” with the afterschool program kids that didn’t have anything else to do”.

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    Dana K says:

    I can’t remember the word he used now, but he clearly understood as did the older male, it wasn’t obviously out in the open what was going on.

    Apparently they moved onto the gym and then got kicked out of there by the janitor, who I guess doesn’t like the young male.

    The young male said the janitor has a version of Asbergers, which is why he didn’t like him.

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    Dana K says:

    So he mentioned that all they’ve done lately is having bonfires and meetings at his home.

    The older male was a bit disappointed about that.

    He said, the principal was supportive but was worried about liability if someone got hurt, “because then the district would look into what happened, and the district has already said it’s not allowed”.

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    Dana K says:

    Wowza!!

    He said the principles name, so I might look into it and contact the school… What a strange coincidence!

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    Dana20 says:

    Wow, this was an eye-opener! I hadn’t heard of this sort of organization.

    Teaching is hard enough without having to also try to coerce students into your religious views!

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    Sarah says:

    Thank you very much, Rose, for your contrasting story.

    I could so imagine everything you described… from believing in something so deeply, and playing it up as a little “white lie”, to that kind of retrospective horror you felt afterwards. I’ve either been there, or I could so easily have been there.

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    Sarah says:

    Perhaps to clarify a bit where I was coming from with my comment #32, I guess I was never intending to imply that there was some kind of malice or outright lie going on, either.

    More that, from my perspective, lying to *oneself* is icky and twisted–not in a judgmental, “you’re bad!” kind of way… just that when I have lied to myself, I have felt icky! and like my mind had to twist itself up in knots to be adequately deceived.

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    Sarah says:

    And it strikes me that actively trying to communicate to the world, “I’m doing great! I feel love and compassion and serenity for all!” is almost guaranteed to require self-deception.

    Either those things are true, and you don’t necessarily have to make a point of communicating them… or they’re not true, and trying to give off that impression requires self-deception. But this is just my perspective, of course.

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    Sarah says:

    And the “ego-driven” part might have been more accurately stated as “fear-based”. As in: fear of hell, fear of children going to hell, etc. Rather than a genuine outpouring of love for others, without some kind of “or else!” attached.

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    Sarah says:

    David B actually made the point I was going for much more clearly and succinctly in comment #49:

    “What about just doing your best and being a real example (not just superficial)?”

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    Sarah says:

    On an entirely different note: I laughed embarrassingly hard at your joke about the terrible fish metaphor. You got me, at first. I thought “Gee, this volunteer missionary teacher lady is surprisingly clever!”

    Probably could have guessed it was actually Rose-cleverness. 😉

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    SARAH, your comments here on the self-lying have not been succinct as DAVID B’s, but to me they are also treasures.

    The very process of writing or (for the rest of is Blog-Buddies) reading these comments… is actually one of the ways to increase the chances of living “I feel love and compassion… for all!”

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    Enlightenment doesn’t guarantee compassion, either. I have known three people who were rather famously living in Enlightenment, that is, famous within their spiritual seeker circles.

    All three treated me in a manner that was cold and aloof. They were so wrapped up in cosmic bliss, their human behavior was as hurtful to me as rudeness from other folks I’ve known who had no such fancy consciousness “credential.”

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    No wonder this Enlightenment Coach has many other jobs as well, and one job I’ve been doing far longer — from the Face Reading work in 1986 onward — is to help people open their hearts of compassion.

    It’s no wonder that the High Heart Chakra plays a central role in RES. In coming years, expect to hear more about this capacity for a second energetic heart.

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    Lilian says:

    What’s the point of being enlightened without compassion ???

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    Oh, I think all these people had compassion… for humanity in the abstract.

    Two of them I knew as fellow TM teachers. I was a hot mess at the time, all my meditation notwithstanding. They saw a hot mess. They had compassion perhaps for me as a hot mess.

    I suppose that they didn’t treat me well for two reasons: because they were buffered by bliss, plus it was the culture of TM back in the day. (And maybe now, still.)

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    Here’s my best anecdote about that culture of TM, where suffering was supposed to be removed by meditation and anything else was considered “unstressing,” which would be taken care of by more meditation.

    Years after I left the Transcendental Meditation movement, I chanced to meet BOBBY. I had known him from years before.

    He made a point of apologizing to me.

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    “Do you remember that course we were on together?” he asked.

    Then he said, to paraphrase, “It was a six-week course for initiators. And I would see you in the dining hall, sitting alone and crying. I think you cried every single day for the whole course. Alone.

    “And I never saw a single person come over to comfort you. Or even talk to you.

    “I’m so ashamed. I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry that such a thing could have happened.”

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    By the way, Blog-Buddies, I’m not just living in Enlightenment now. I’m a really happy person.

    Maybe all that meditation did help. Maybe the only reason I cried like that was unstressing.

    But the culture was very much Maharishi’s doing. In many ways, my formation as a spiritual teacher was shaped by YES, doing certain things that I believe he got right and, NO, avoiding other things. Things like that.

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    Julie says:

    I can relate to compassion for humanity in the abstract, but also the call toward compassion in action- helping the individual who is suffering.

    Helping on the practical level, with practical actions. And as an empath, with skilled empathy.

    I have a feeling this kind of compassion brings the really good karma.

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    Julie says:

    The invitation to help may not come at a convenient time. It may not be convenient due to schedule. It may not be convenient due to health. It may not be convenient due to other demands.

    It may not be convenient *in any way whatsoever*.

    But will you help?

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    Lilian says:

    That’s a hard culture to live in…

    One of the lessons I’ve learnt is that humans will always have emotions, and it’s natural. The trouble (stuff) comes when you judge yourself on a spiritual level for a normal human reaction.

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    Lilian says:

    There’s a similar dogma in Christianity: suffering = sin. That’s related to your typically Victorian moralisation: material success=righteousness.

    No allowing for complexity of experience. That when you get your weird controlling religions, like your very American overly upbeat evangelicals. Icky and wrong.

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