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What Enlightenment Looks Like. DISCERNMENT JAMBOREE!

What Enlightenment Looks Like. Probably you’ve got some idea or ideal. But could that be holding you back?

What Enlightenment Looks Like.

Today’s article is for you, from an Enlightenment Teacher. Have you been wondering: What does Enlightenment Look Like? How Can You Tell?

Such a Mystery, What Enlightenment Looks Like!

Let’s call that “Enlightenment Question #1.”

And then let’s add an even more interesting question. Which I’ll dub “Enlightenment Question #2.”

What Do YOU Expect Enlightenment to Look Like?

A couple of Blog-Buddies just  inspired today’s post. Thanks for adding the comments that I’m going to quote below.

As for the rest of you, let’s do some learning together. Feel free to add more comments about what you’ve been expecting.

When we’ve had a lot of input from you, I’ll write answers to both questions. All in a day’s work for this Enlightenment Coach!

Our Conversation Is off to a Great Start with these Blog Comments

You’ll find them at the end of yesterday’s post. Which happened to include what I found out about Moshe Feldenkrais’s state of consciousness.

Blog-Buddy KYLIE led things off by commenting:

Fascinating reading! I was not at all surprised to find that he had the empath gifts for physical oneness and physical intuition, given his life work.

I was surprised to find that he was in enlightenment, because to my stage one energetic literacy impression, he doesn’t look particularly joyful. It’s a useful reminder that saints, or rather people living in enlightenment, can walk among us without anyone noticing.

Later she added:

Not that I ever really thought about it before, but I expect sparkly eyes and a big smile.

Someone who looks really lively.

What Do We Expect Enlightenment to Look Like? If We’re Honest…

Don’t we have some sort of image? Or a disqualifier? (Like a deal-breaker? Such as, “If Joe’s tie is crooked, it doesn’t matter how nice the rest of his suit looks. And Joe definitely couldn’t be in Enlightenment.”)

One of our exceptionally honest Blog-Buddies, ETHAN, has added this to our emerging thread:

I do have a bit of “ought to look” expectations of enlightenment.

Similar to KYLIE, I think about a twinkle in the eye, but I also think of the silly stereotype of the beautiful, youthful, yoga body/free spirit type.

Interesting, huh?

Plus, Here’s My Invitation to Gain More Clarity about What We Expect Enlightenment to Look Like

Aren’t you expecting to see something in the appearance of somebody in Enlightenment? Please, help make this conversation even more juicy.

Also, what do you think is popular about this in Collective Consciousness right now. (If you know much about Collective Consciousness, you know there’s gotta be something.)

Feel free to quote from high-ranking blog posts about “What Enlightenment Looks Like.” (Just give us the author and the quote, please. Plus, is the author an Enlightenment Coach? Otherwise, what IS that person’s standing to teach us about this cherished ideal, self-realization?) I was a bit surprised to find 52 1/2 MILLION hits on this topic. Who knew that so many people were experts?

And what if your first thought about expectations goes like this? “I don’t know exactly what Enlightenment looks like. But I’ll know it when I see it.” Or “I’ll feel it when I see it.”

In that case, think about some public figure who has passed your personal test. Somebody who seemed to be in Enlightenment. Perhaps somebody on my Enlightenment Life List. What about that person’s appearance confirms that for you?

Yes, let’s do some truth seeking together. I’m cordially inviting all of you to contribute.

Later, I promise to answer Question # 1 and Question #2 . Meanwhile, boldly add what you do or don’t expect. Honestly, now! When seeing the photo of somebody who might be in Enlightenment. You know, to be able to “spot Enlightenment.”

Please Keep Your Comments Coming

Keep Your Comments Coming

As this thread has emerged, some of you have been sending in quotes about discerning Enlightenment. Supplied by other teachers.

And some of you have let me know, on blog or off. You’re interested. Well, me too.

No Doubt, Each of these Enlightenment Teachers Has Readers Who Believe (Strongly):

This Enlightenment Teacher is The Best!!!

I’m not seeking to tear anyone down. I’d just like to up our discernment about Enlightenment. Supplying today’s Energy Spirituality perspective!

And important news that Traditional Enlightenment isn’t the only kind any more. Age of Awakening Enlightenment has arrived. When will all Enlightenment coaches know about it, not just the kind of Enlightenment from back in the Age of Faith!

To keep this lively conversation going, add one or more comments.

  1. Just name the Enlightenment Expert.
  2. Name the website or link.
  3. And then quote away.
  4. Fascinating differences, as you’ll see.

Already Considered Here. So Please Choose New Enlightenment Experts.

Thanks for providing a chance to sharpen discernment, my fellow teachers:

  2. Charles A. Francis
  3. Steven M. Taylor
  4. The Exploration of Consciousness Institute
  5. Yogi Aaron
  6. Random experts from Quora
  7. “What Every Enlightened Person Knows, But Never Talks about….” (A YouTube video with 2.8 MILLION views, in the queue now for discussion.)

Awaiting Discernment Comments, While I Catch up Best as I Can

  1. MellowMagic
  2. Sonti Panduranga Rao

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  1. 901

    Of course, there have always been popular figures who pandered to people in this romantic way.

    Others were well meaning but deluded enough to seriously believe in the mythology that immature (or even stupid) = wise.

  2. 902

    I’d recommend higher standards, as described in this YouTube video about WHY I developed an Enlightenment Life List.

    Feel free to compare this simple YouTube video, truly offered for free, to previous Comments #875-883.

  3. 903
    Oscar Manuel says:


    I definitely believed in the message thing before, and tried to get messages, just because there was so much talk of receiving messages from God or angels or whomever. It doesn’t make sense to me any more.

  4. 904
    Oscar Manuel says:

    Funny thing is back when I was trying to get messages, I was pretty connected to God.

    I just read and heard a lot about trying to get messages and signs.

  5. 905
    Oscar Manuel says:

    So it was just like a new job to do, that probably made my relationship with God more complicated and fraught (temporarily).

    Like the wonderful connection I had wasn’t good enough.

  6. 906
    Oscar Manuel says:

    Even if I could be some kind of messenger for God (which is actually sort of offensive, now that I think of it), it seems like a really horrible job for a human being.

    How would I manage to also live my life, and learn anything?

  7. 907

    OSCAR, every point you made here is well worth pondering. Talk about interesting!

    Of course, you learned something from the experiment you described. Some of our most important spiritual learning can come from dud-type experiments. Glad you came through this one with your head screwed on straight.

  8. 908
    Will says:

    Wow, Rose, thank you! With that video, I just cringed and saw wrongness everywhere.

    You really put words to a lot of things I reacted to. How you describe the “slightly weird” language as being flattery…. yes!!!

  9. 909

    WILL, I’m so glad this Discernment Jamboree is helpful to you.

    And, of course, I continue to issue an open invitation to other Blog-Buddies to do a quick search, find some quote, and send them over as a comment.

  10. 910

    After decades of doing Energy Spirituality sessions, I’ve developed a (perhaps weird) ability to research or discern what is cringeworthy.

    Like, I wouldn’t recommend that any of you purposely seek to gain this sort of toughness. But it is helpful for this sort of consumer exercise.

  11. 911

    Yesterday was the first time since I’ve launched this DISCERNMENT JAMBOREE that one of my clients moved into Enlightenment.

    Very human details show up in the blog post I wrote about one particular man, and how he’d just received Enlightenment Validation.

  12. 912

    If you take a look, please be sure to read the comments beneath the main post.

    Since the exchanges there are very relevant to developing standards about what’s worthy of a spiritual seeker.

  13. 913

    As you’ll see, these comments are very revealing about how — for this Enlightenment Teacher — the follow-up “instruction” after moving into Enlightenment is also part of the sacred role for an Enlightenment Coach.

    Incidentally, most of those commenting are also in Age of Awakening Enlightenment. It’s fun when more lights come on. Like the opposite of the candles on a birthday cake, where you blow them out and just wish for good things to happen in life.

  14. 914
    Emily Turner says:

    Hi Rose, I found the following… From “Sonti Panduranga Rao” on Quora:

    “The enlightened person is always full of peace and bliss and contentenment.

  15. 915

    EMILY TURNER, how delightful to have our first bit of DISCERNMENT JAMBOREE in the new year begin with traditional ideas… about traditional Enlightenment.

    Let’s start with that interesting quote in your Comment #914.

  16. 916

    You and I come from Western culture, Judeo-Christian culture, where there are longstanding traditions that involve romanticizing Jesus and saints.

    Eastern religions have, likewise, done their version of that… for thousands of years. Here we’ve got a perfect example, courtesy of Sonti Panduranga Rao.

  17. 917

    Why would a person in (Traditional) Enlightenment be perpetually full of peace?

    Ooh, controversy alert! And on the first day of a new decade, even!

  18. 918

    As you know, EMILY, and probably most of you readers know as well, I’m in Age of Awakening Enlightenment. Not the Traditional Enlightenment being celebrated here.

    And yet I’ve known several people with that state of consciousness. Known them personally. Sometimes been close friends with them.

  19. 919

    Beyond that, sometimes I’ve done aura readings of them. Or gotten even closer into what’s going on, courtesy of Skilled Empath Merge.

    That said, here’s my experience. Very little of a person’s humanity remains, having made the shift into Traditional Enlightenment.

  20. 920

    By my calculation, it’s just 2%. While 98% of that person’s consciousness is Divine.

    Incidentally, this is one of the reasons why (in my view) people in Traditional Enlightenment don’t really grow much personally; while folks in Age of Awakening Enlightenment can evolve faster than ever, humanly. (Yes, could something better be available now, compared to peace and bliss? I think so.)

  21. 921

    Well, that 2% that’s identifiably human does feel negative emotions, worry about romantic breakups, suffer from food cravings — just like anybody else.

    I’ve heard the stories. Often I’ve done aura reading research to help bring clarity to these friends, from time to time.

  22. 922

    Yet, in public, would somebody in Enlightenment tell you that? Definitely not.

    They’re influenced by how they’re supposed to show up. Often influenced by a guru. Always influenced by Collective Consciousnessusness, which brings easy cliches that tempt all humans who engage in human-type conversations.

  23. 923

    Kind of like this. Your mother or grandmother has probably been overheard saying something like this:

    “Before I go out in public, I’ve got to go put on my face.”

  24. 924

    Which means what? Never go out just as you are, at home. Put your best face forward, courtesy of cosmetics.

  25. 925

    Like that, I’ve had private conversations with friends in Traditional Enlightenment. Sure, in the background, there was peace, bliss, and a sense of eternity.

    Yet, as friends do, we were talking about HUMAN-TYPE PROBLEMS.

  26. 926

    In public, would they have chosen to discuss that? Not usually.

    And between that very understandable “Best face forward, be a good poster person for Enlightenment” jazz… And all the training the person received from guru, Collective Consciousness, and all….

  27. 927

    Idealized and romanticized versions keep perpetuating themselves.

    Still, I have to call out this component of the Age of Faith. Because now we can learn to understand life more clearly. More like God’s grownup, instead of yesterday’s version of human… as God’s humble, obedient, supplicating child who needs hero worship more than what’s true.

  28. 928
    Emily Turner says:

    “He radiates the same qualities just as a red hot iron radiates heat.”

  29. 929

    EMILY, you’ve found such a great quote with the usual tropes (and exaggerations) concerning Traditional Enlightenment.

    That Comment #928 is so very Age of Faith. So hero-worshiping.

  30. 930

    To the extent that a person in Traditional Enlightenment is human (just 10%, remember), what do you find if you pay attention to that humanity? What that person says and does in human reality!

    Assuming that you’re curious about finding the truth, you can find human suffering. Doubts. Frailties. Lusts. Disappointments.

  31. 931

    Problems that you might know a bit about yourself.

    Only you can’t hide behind a “put on your face” mask of peace and bliss and contentment. Not unless you, too, are witnessing your life from the blissful haze of Traditional Enlightenment, plus the little bit of a show that public figures are pretty much obligated to do.

  32. 932

    After all, have you ever met a celebrity? Even a minor one, like a radio broadcaster or big-time journalist.

    I’ve known some of those as well (think, Rose Rosetree’s 1,000+ media interviews), and I’ve caught them acting more grand in public, more noblesse oblige, than when they’re hanging out with me, one on one. People playing a social role, meaning well.

  33. 933

    How about one more example, before I pause for today?

    Back in the day I did a video interview with Rick Archer, whose website, Buddha at the Gas Pump, aims to interview people who are “awakened.” And who was, at the time, in Traditional Enlightenment.

  34. 934

    That interview lasted over two hours, mostly because of what happened when Rick casually admitted to lying to his wife about doing our interview, how he was using his time, etc.

    Having a man in Traditional Enlightenment admit to lying… on an Enlightenment video… was an amazing media event, imo.

  35. 935

    So I offered to research what happened to his aura while he was lying to his wife, courtesy of pulling out an Energetic Hologram.

    You can listen and watch. (If you’ve got the patience.) Pretty darned fascinating, and human!

  36. 936

    Of course, there’s more to somebody in Enlightenment than romanticized similies about having a super-special presence exactly like a “red hot iron.”

    Think about who uses a red hot iron any more. How about a hot poker? (This figure of speech from Ms. Rao may reveal quite a bit about the provenance of her similes. Not exactly 21st century, huh?)

  37. 937

    On reflection, I think my Grandfather Hugo, a tailor, would heat up his clothes iron. (About 100 years ago). Like he probably put it near a burning fire.

    And then before applying it to the clothing, how did he create his own version of today’s steam irons? Like everybody probably…

  38. 938

    He’d keep a glass of water near the clothing he was trying to iron. From time to time, he’d fill his mouth with a big gulp from the glass, then strategically spit it out. Then iron.


  39. 939

    Since then, times have changed. Our personal familiarity with red hot iron or poker? Not so great.

    Altogether, Blog-Buddies, it’s time to question the need to romanticize in order to pursue spiritual growth. A need to romanticize larger-than-life spiritual heroes. Which went out of style, along with other aspects of the bygone Age of Faith, in the last decade of human history.

  40. 940
    Emily Turner says:

    “Anyone can radiate what he has ; the enlightened one radiates peace bliss and contentment, these cannot be seen but definitely felt by those who are near him and the intensity depends on the purity of mind that approaches him.”

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